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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:23 PM
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Works, People need to read that supplement! Im sure that is the cause..
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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The problem is - it's an addendum, obviously. The glaring color of the paper it's on pretty much makes it obvious. I'm sure the people who had theirs installed earlier couldn't have prevented it.

But hey - It's preventable now
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by IceNine
Install a turbo, lose your warranty *AND* you're no longer street legal. Oh, and you get the privilege of throwing random CEL's because of your swapped out exhaust manifold. No thanks. I'm all for turbos when done right, but no one has done it right on a tC yet.
The turbonetics kit will pass emissions, it just isn't CARB exempt (which only really applies to CA anyway...). Also, I've put around 1000 miles on my car since installing the turbo and have yet to throw a CEL.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:34 PM
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Dezod and Turbonetics also offer a downpipe with a Cat, that does not throw a CEL.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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You have to throw at least 1000 miles before you CAN throw a CEL for anything exhaust related. That's why people buy O2 simulators, so they don't have to reset OBD every 1000 miles.

I will say though - of all the kits out, the Turbonetics one is the best. But you should still expect CEL's down the road. It's simply inevitable because of what they do to the exhaust manifold for aftermarket tC turbos.

Is there an online FAQ somewhere that states the Turbonetics is emissions legal in all but Cali? Honestly, those are words I wouldn't mind eating.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by zer0
Dezod and Turbonetics also offer a downpipe with a Cat, that does not throw a CEL.
Good to know, since that's a no-brainer for a daily driver. Especially if you're a tree-hugging democrat (I'm not lol)
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Turbonetics doesn't state that anywhere specifically. I'm speaking from my own experience and the experiences of others. NY's emissions test is just as strict as CA with the exception of requiring all parts to be CARB certified. Even the cat-less turbonetics kits will pass the sniffer inspection in NY.

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Im not sure if NJ is the same as NY, but the tC won't fail the visual inspection with just headers. When the ECU is read, and yuo have the anti-fouler trick, the cat that was in the headers should come up clean. The next thing they do ishook up the vaccum to the exhaust, and if your car is clean enough, then it passes inspection.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BreakTheStatic
Turbonetics doesn't state that anywhere specifically.
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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Exactly. Nowhere do they actually say that the kit is street legal. However, in most states it will pass inspection (including NY, which is almost as tough as CA to pass)
Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IceNine
Good idea, since you're pretty much guessing yourself - meaning you'd just wind up correcting yourself. You've said "You've been there," but I doubt you've been there under the correct circumstances... Talk is cheap, and I have plenty of money to throw at this
Last chime. Yes I have been there and was the first to be there. And talk is cheap so you should probably stop. WAAIIIITTTT. Whats that? A 12 psi pulley and on my car, the same one that I sold to KYTC, that cant be right I'm all talk, or maybe its you. so lets hear what else you know about the s/c.


Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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However IceNine your interior in your car does look sick, I would stick to electronics. If I ever have any questions about led's i'll hit you up.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Pics are cheap too.

If you did 12psi on stock internals, you're already one of two things - crazy or stupid. Take your pick here, as your weakest link is anything BUT the supercharger. ANYTHING over 9-10psi requires significant fuel-system upgrades not to mention forged internals.

This is my 3rd supercharged import car in a row - one of which was a camry pushing 325whp. (Yes. A *CAMRY*)

The tC *will* do 300whp with the TRD SC provided the seals aren't blown as the result of a faulty/early install AND if you upgrade the internals and fuel delivery. There's no reason it shouldn't. The supercharger is simply not the weak link here if your install is not faulty.

TRD has said that it's good for around 18-20psi before internally heat-soaking. That means 15psi is very much possible and likely a good number for this unit. You can't throw a 12lb pulley & emanage on this engine and expect everything to be ok.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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I never said what other mods i did at 12psi just what I had at 9.5. Read the thread. And pics are more than you've managed to do. TRD says a lot of thing check the posts on this forum, they dont stand by there word by any means. I'm glad this is you 3rd supercharged import car in a row. Your 37 and you drive a Scion. Cool bro. Maybe its time you get out of Mom's basement and go get a job. Why your at it read a book on import performance, you need to get learned up obviously.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lundy
I never said what other mods i did at 12psi just what I had at 9.5. Read the thread. And pics are more than you've managed to do. TRD says a lot of thing check the posts on this forum, they dont stand by there word by any means. I'm glad this is you 3rd supercharged import car in a row. Your 37 and you drive a Scion. Cool bro. Maybe its time you get out of Mom's basement and go get a job. Why your at it read a book on import performance, you need to get learned up obviously.


but as far as the argument, all of the problems that have been posted so far all have to do with the actual s/c. i dont believe anybody has had any problems with their internals yet..i could be wrong but as far as i know, it has yet to be a problem for s/c owners.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lundy
I never said what other mods i did at 12psi just what I had at 9.5. Read the thread. And pics are more than you've managed to do. TRD says a lot of thing check the posts on this forum, they dont stand by there word by any means. I'm glad this is you 3rd supercharged import car in a row. Your 37 and you drive a Scion. Cool bro. Maybe its time you get out of Mom's basement and go get a job. Why your at it read a book on import performance, you need to get learned up obviously.
Married, father of 3 - but thanks for playing!

And now i'm somehow uncool for being 37 and driving a scion... so sorry I missed the memo about having hit the legal age requirement for having to drive a minivan or a SUV.

As for you, I have no idea what you do, who you are, whose basement you live in or what not - but insulting people's lifestyles by making flagrant (and wrong) guesses don't make you any more of a genius about cars - a fact becoming more and more obvious with every post you make. So why don't you just keep it on topic and spare yourself the negative image.

Anyway, pics of my engine bay are on cardomain (always have been). I've never said that I have built my car beyond 300whp - I am simply saying it CAN be done with the SC regardless of what you say. You haven't had one there. You haven't ATTEMPTED to have one there. And if you did, and failed, I'm sure I could point out everywhere you went wrong.

And that, my friend, is the ugly truth.
Old Jul 18, 2006 | 02:16 AM
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Cant we all just get along..

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