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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 04:47 AM
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I guess I'll stop threadjacking other threads and actually make my own about this issue. For those who don't know, the TRD Supercharger price dropped to the tune of $1850. Now, when I saw this, I was thrilled, and immediately started moving money around and calling in debts to ****** one of these now-affordable kits up... but then I went back to Sparks, and saw the original price. I researched a bit, and then it was pointed out to me that the cheaper price was for the '06, and the '07 price didn't change.

So naturally, I started to research more about the differences between the kits... and I have yet to dig up anything besides the financial reasoning ('06 = old) and the obvious mechanical differences (new MAF sensor, different ECU reflash). And now that leads me to these questions:

1) Is there anything that actually justifies the $1100 price discrepancy between years besides what's already stated, and if so, what is it?

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2) What is to stop someone from bolting on the '06 kit to their '07? And furthermore, how does one overcome those barriers?

My guesses to those questions are that no, there is nothing that really justifies it, and all you would need is an '07 compatible aftermarket intake and an aftermarket ECU management system. Granted, if you did bolt the '06 kit to the '07, it wouldn't be warrantied, and would actually void all other warranties... but if someone were to attempt this, I would assume they were aware of that.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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hmmmmmmmm
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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can you show me some kinda site or something that states the priced dropped for the 06 models??

i told my dealer that the price dropped and they checked there computer and said no it hadn't, i didnt want to argue so i left
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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Click the link where it says the supercharger price dropped in the original topic. trdsparks.com is Sparks Toyota, which is an actual Toyota retailer, so their prices are correct. It's been pretty apparent based on what's already been discussed about this topic that dealerships either weren't informed about this change, or are just ignoring it to try and get you to pay the old price.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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thanks, lol hadnt realized it was a link, that price isnt bad,

with the right work, i think the 06 s/c would be able to work with the 07's
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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The Newer tC's have a different MAF sensor that is not compatible with the older supercharger. Therfore, you mst get the newer and more expensive S/C. Another thing that may have changed is the reflash. i know the ECU has a different pinout, but i dont know if they would affect anything,
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 05:23 AM
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Right, I said all that in the OT. There's no way that a different MAF and a different ECU reflash should cost $1100, so I'm trying to decide why the cost discrepancy exists, and how to overcome it.
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I have a 06 tc. My dealer didn't find the correct price the first time. Then i went back the price and part number on trdsparks' website.
Then my dealer found the correct price.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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UPDATE

From: cdoebert@gmail.com
To: --@sparkstoyota.com
I realize the prices are set by Toyota, and I can understand the financial reasoning behind the difference... but mechanically, what's different about them? What's stopping me from bolting up the '06 s/c to my '07?

From: --@sparkstoyota.com
To: cdoebert@gmail.com
It just won't line up and it won't work even if you could work out some kind of mod to attach it.


I smell shenanigans. Does anyone know if this is true?
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i think the header heat shield is different also... not that that's $1100 in difference, but throwing it out there...
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Originally Posted by 2_much_tc
i think the header heat shield is different also... not that that's $1100 in difference, but throwing it out there...
The TRD heat shield, or the stock one?
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Diff ECU Reflash, heat shield, and MAF. ANyone at sparks is not who you wanna talk to. You talk to TRD if you have a question on why they are high priced, they are high priced because the car just came out right now in 07 and 08, thats how much the S/C for the 05/06 models were. its supply and demand thats all. they will make more profit on the new cars including the New XB since its about the same setup as well.

Sparks toyota would not do any shennaigans, they are just passing on the savings they get to us, if they dont get ne they wont pass it on
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Well, then I guess now my question is would it be more economical to try and get the '05/'06 kit to work on the '07/'08? At the moment, I would say yes, as the two problems already addressed (MAF and ECU) are fixed by aftermarket parts (CAI and eManage) you would/should be buying already if you didn't care about the warranty (which I don't, obviously).

In order to better answer that question without just buying the kit myself and spending a day or two with it, I'm trying to figure out EXACTLY what makes the kits and the cars different.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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well lets see. u dont really need the hear shield, you can get header adn wrap em in hear wrap, the MAF sensor on the other hand is something diff, and you dont really need engine management when u get ur self a emanage ultimate.

soooo hmmm may work out the same with a lil better results.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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Exactly. Now what Sparks brought up, that it won't "line up, even with a mod", is what concerns me, and what I called shenanigans on. As far as I know, nothing moved in the engine bay between model years.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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well i assume they are talking about the MAF sensor, that wont line up because the new one is smaller then the old one. but he maybe also talking about a superchager bracket.

What i suggest you do is look at the S/C kit.

compare part #'s to part #'s

see wats diff.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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I should have a parts list sometime today or tomorrow, so I can compare. Sparks doesn't have an '07 list on their site that I can see.
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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uhm...well, the supercharger comes with it's own airbox right? well, maybe the 07-08 maf sensor won't fit at all on the 05-06 style airbox?

the new supercharger airboxes are way different aren't they? like noticibly different?
Old Oct 1, 2007 | 11:19 PM
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That's why I'm saying if you just hooked up an aftermarket intake, it won't make a difference.



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