I'm thinking about getting myself the ZPI stage 0 turbo kit, but i wanted to know what other maintenance besides more frequent oil changes do i have to do so that i don't ruin both my car and my turbo?
any info will help alot, Thank you

 

you will need to get a BOV to prevent compressor surge, and get it tuned with engine management to prevent running lean or rich.

 

Thank you. I know a little about turbo's, besides more frequent oil changes, what other maintenance do it need?

 

93 octane gas.

 

the stage 0 dose not require either of them on the boost levels there running at.

Bolt on the stgae 0, chnage your spark plugs and go drive your car. thats the way it was designed. the BOV and EMS is just a plus

 

If this is true, where does the additional boost pressure go when the gas is backed off of?

 

No were did i say it wouldnt surge, however there are plenty of stage 0's without them. The kit DOES NOT need engone management either, just like the treadstone. the factory ECU can handle the small amount of boost.

 

Ok. Just so that we are all on the same page here. Surge can destroy a turbo over time.

Do you have logs of an WB O2 AFR logs on the Stage 0 without management? I have yet to see Treadstone's as well. I am curious to see these.

I do know of a way to sort-of get around the engine management on this car, but it does not work THAT well not to have a programmable form of fuel delivery.

 

Yes, i know that surge will kill the turbo over time. I run there stage 1

I dont have the graphs, because i dont have a stage 0, nor do i work for ZPI, but there's alteast 100 stage 0's running no management so im sure its jsut fine. Travis has a stage 0 or two in his club, maybe he can comment on the AFR

 

Just talked to Kenny from ZPI, and the stage 0 with nothing else is usually in the 10's across the board

 

Still does not prove the point. I can say I am the president of the United States and it doesn't mean it's true. Not tryin to be an ___ here, just asking for facts.

 

They dont need to prove you wrong, nor do i. if you want proof, go buy a stage 0 from ZPI, and run your own log. Theres nothing to prove when theres been the amount of kits sold as there is.

Just because " DEZOD " and the master mechanics you guys are couldnt figure out how, or pay someone to figure out how to make it work on the tC, then thats your problem. ZPI AND TREDSTONE did, and there selling kits like crazy.

Whats the graphs going to prove? the fact that ZPI kit sales VS Dezod sales are like 10/1

.... i know they didnt use a lego set to design there kit.

 

I know how it is done, Joe and I discovered how to do this like 2 years ago!

It's a hack and is not reliable.

I do not need to sling mud to prove anything, nor am I going to even begin that ZPI blah blah blah mess. We sell quite a few kits for sure, and trust me business is good. Hence why we went into a larger shop and did not downsize.

Lego??!!?! WTH are you talkin about?

 

Im laughing my butt off over here. Why can't another compnay ask another company a simple question with out someone get defensive...

 

travis said himself that his partial throttle afrs were in the 13-14, and that's WITH emanage. Hence the moniker "Fire Shooter"

 

another uncalled for thread.

 

... and how many stage 0's have blown up?

 

Then why don't you PM some of the Stage 0's running around with no management? I mean seriously Paul. It's been what 2-3 years and you still fighting that same ole...."Stage 0 can't run without management"....battle. Let it go already, they run fairly rich without management, END of story.



Not exactly Mr_Meaty. The "Fire Shooter" in my sig is in reference to what happens when you run Rich at WOT and shift gears, hence dumping fuel into the exhaust + running no CAT on the exhaust = "Fire Shooter". Nothing to do with part throttle.

 

do u guys like email each other to go look at these zpi threads, you come in pairs!

 

So do *****, shoes, pants...etc....lol. I have connections. When my name is spoken, I read and reply if need be.