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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:28 AM
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So i put on my turbo as of:

Turbo manifold is on.
Turbo is on.
Downpipe is on.
Right now it is open downpipe so that means im not getting a reading on my second o2 sensor.

MAF sensor is hooked up onto my turbo coldside pipe to my air filter.
And i have a pipe running off my intake manifold valve.
The full intercooler piping is not hooked up.
Stock injectors are still in.
Stock fuel pump is still in.

Any ideas?
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:30 AM
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hook up the intercooler an it will start
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:32 AM
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Ok I have a question. Should I put the MAF sensor on the cold side of the turbo pipe.. or the intake manifold pipe.
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kush.0
Ok I have a question. Should I put the MAF sensor on the cold side of the turbo pipe.. or the intake manifold pipe.


wow kid, first....you should become more familiar with turbo mechanics and maf/map sensors. you also need to search...alot.



putting it before the turbo is called a pull thru system which IMO sucks

putting it after the turbo(after bov and before throttle body) is called a blow thru setup....you deff need to research ALOT. patience is a virtue that you need to learn bud.
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scion_andrew
hook up the intercooler an it will start
go to sleep slacker!!!! lol giving people false hope!!!!

Originally Posted by kush.0
Ok I have a question. Should I put the MAF sensor on the cold side of the turbo pipe.. or the intake manifold pipe.


take the wg spring out and run unlimited boost!!!!
jk jk
r u saying the intercooler isnt connected to anything? u just have piping that leads no where?

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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We figured out all the piping.
We just need to cute 2 pieces in order to make everything fit.
We have the MAF sensor as the "pull thru" system.

So are you saying he is giving me false hope because even with the IC piping all put together and I try starting it that it won't stay on?

The motor will crank over.. rev up to 3,500RPM then bog out and turn off.
Thats was before when we just had two pipes, one off the turbo and one off the intake manifold, leading off to no where, the turbo side had the air filter put up with it.. it actually wasnt on the pipe.
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Bummmmpppp iT up
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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if the piping is leading no where of course it isn't going to run b/c the turbo will be pulling air thru which is read by the maf and then when that air doesn't show up at the throttle body it will cause the car to bog down and die. not to mention the fact that you are free spining your turbo which is hard on it.
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^^ x2. If I'm understanding this correctly, and I hope I'm not. You're running your Turbo car, Tuned to have a turbo. after disconnecting the intercooler, which disconnects your turbo from your tb. Meaning Ur not making boost when your car is expecting boost because the turbo's still suckin air in, therefore flooding your cylinders with extra fuel it doesn't need, choking your car. I hope I'm wrong.

Funniest part is, technically scion andrew wasn't wrong. If he were to hook the intercoolerpiping back on it would run.
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kush.0
We figured out all the piping.
We just need to cute 2 pieces in order to make everything fit.
We have the MAF sensor as the "pull thru" system.

So are you saying he is giving me false hope because even with the IC piping all put together and I try starting it that it won't stay on?

The motor will crank over.. rev up to 3,500RPM then bog out and turn off.
Thats was before when we just had two pipes, one off the turbo and one off the intake manifold, leading off to no where, the turbo side had the air filter put up with it.. it actually wasnt on the pipe.

Did you expect it to run? Your MAF is plugged in, but it's not going anywhere in terms of reading for the motor because you have no connections to the Throttle Body. Why you even trying to start it when you have pipes leading to no where? If the MAF was moved to a Blow-thru setup, it would actually start, because it's connected to the TB. That's the beauty of the Blow-thru (in that if you are driving and one of your pipes pop off, the car would still drive).

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^^ x2. If I'm understanding this correctly, and I hope I'm not. You're running your Turbo car, Tuned to have a turbo. after disconnecting the intercooler, which disconnects your turbo from your tb. Meaning Ur not making boost when your car is expecting boost because the turbo's still suckin air in, therefore flooding your cylinders with extra fuel it doesn't need, choking your car. I hope I'm wrong.

Funniest part is, technically scion andrew wasn't wrong. If he were to hook the intercoolerpiping back on it would run.
He's using stock injectors so it's not that drastic and all, but yep you about summed it up. Highly doubt it's tuned with anything though seeing as how he is using stock injectors.

OP, you better learn how cars works before you end up with a large paper weight. This is why you research BEFORE doing stuff.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 02:54 PM
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i think the op will be on here asking why his engine blew in a few days.


turbos are a privilege which should be allowed to people who actually know how they work.


EDIT: just noticed the OP is from jersey shore...i think we have our answer...
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Originally Posted by Olesen_Custom_Automotive
i think the op will be on here asking why his engine blew in a few days.


turbos are a privilege which should be allowed to people who actually know how they work.


EDIT: just noticed the OP is from jersey shore...i think we have our answer...
wait you mean pistons won't belong through the side of the block?
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kush.0
So i put on my turbo as of:

Turbo manifold is on.
Turbo is on.
Downpipe is on.
Right now it is open downpipe so that means im not getting a reading on my second o2 sensor.

MAF sensor is hooked up onto my turbo coldside pipe to my air filter.
And i have a pipe running off my intake manifold valve.
The full intercooler piping is not hooked up.
Stock injectors are still in.
Stock fuel pump is still in.

Any ideas?

Maybe his vtec oil pressure sensor isnt plugged in LULZ bro hook up ur intercooler n g.l. cuz as of now ur on the road to an epic fail
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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i do believe the op and this guy share a relation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlDLybhuOH0
Old Oct 25, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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You guys are all stupid, the motor has no reason to blow. Yes its not tuned the car hasnt even been on the road with the turbo on yet since im justp putting it on now. The car has 10,000 miles on it, the motor is healthy. Turbo is healthy. Im running a HOSLET turbo, small cold side, bigger hotside. My wastegate spring Tial 38mm .6bar spring bar. on a small turbo untuned ill be building not much power so idk how you can see my motor blowing lmao.
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install everything at once, do it right, and then turn it on.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kush.0
You guys are all stupid, the motor has no reason to blow. Yes its not tuned the car hasnt even been on the road with the turbo on yet since im justp putting it on now. The car has 10,000 miles on it, the motor is healthy. Turbo is healthy. Im running a HOSLET turbo, small cold side, bigger hotside. My wastegate spring Tial 38mm .6bar spring bar. on a small turbo untuned ill be building not much power so idk how you can see my motor blowing lmao.

FYI....you can blow your motor at 200whp or you can blow it at 400whp...power isn't the single factor that blows up motors.
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you're going to come in to a forum with guys who have been boosted for years with the car you're trying to boost and call us idiots? you couldnt even figure out why your car wont start. yet we are idiots. you have posted 1 thread a day asking us for help. but we are the idiots? bro you need to pull your head out of your ___. stock injectors will not hold up to the amount of air any turbo pushes. your car will blow. trust the "idiots" of the FI section.
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go back to stock and itll start.
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Originally Posted by Syldrin
you're going to come in to a forum with guys who have been boosted for years with the car you're trying to boost and call us idiots? you couldnt even figure out why your car wont start. yet we are idiots. you have posted 1 thread a day asking us for help. but we are the idiots? bro you need to pull your head out of your ___. stock injectors will not hold up to the amount of air any turbo pushes. your car will blow. trust the "idiots" of the FI section.
PWNED! By syldrin but if were such idiots y r our cars running n urs is not lulz...in for the lock

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