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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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Today i picked up my Dezod Turbo tC, the 1st thing i noticed with my AEM wideband is that the numbers were constantly jumping. I get in my car and all of a sudden the number stays stable at 14.8 , is there anything wrong with my wideband gauge ?

Also i am currently running the Dezod kit, i will be taking it this saturday to get it dyno tuned, but i am having a doubt, is it suppose to make a spooling sound inside the car by the glove compartment ? cause i hear a whistle kind of a spooling sound?

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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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Glove box Boost FTW!

lol...j/k.

Not sure about the glove box noise, but your Wideband is acting normal as it should.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:37 AM
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welcome to the world of FI... =o)

remember to baby it for about 3k miles... how soon are ya gonna take it to get dyno'd? I hear a spoolin sound when i go passed 3k rpms but havnent noticed if its coming from the glove box... its a sweet sound... youll get used to it. hows the shifting at mid to high rpms? is it smooth?
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Originally Posted by Crippie
welcome to the world of FI... =o)

remember to baby it for about 3k miles... how soon are ya gonna take it to get dyno'd? I hear a spoolin sound when i go passed 3k rpms but havnent noticed if its coming from the glove box... its a sweet sound... youll get used to it. hows the shifting at mid to high rpms? is it smooth?
Arent you part of of the 1UP crew ? greddy kit ?

if you are, could i possibly get some help from you man , so you can take a look
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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14.8 idle is right where you want to be... The real question is what you are at when you are wide open throttle at full boost
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RacingSolution
14.8 idle is right where you want to be... The real question is what you are at when you are wide open throttle at full boost
Honestly i havent gone into Boost yet, because i am alittle worried that something might go wrong.

I will be dyno tuning it this saturday.

I was alittle concerned today when i was accelerating alittlebit faster while still in vac mode and the car would turn off on me. I dont know if this is normal
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Nope thats not... Do you have an emanage?
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:10 AM
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The whistle could be an exhaust leak!
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:33 AM
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Nope thats not... Do you have an emanage?
emanage blue and dezod black box. i also upgraded to NGK 2 step colder spark plugs
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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14.8 is normal.

It just shuts off when you get on it? Or do you clutch in after making some boost? You're using the HKS bov kit right?
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
14.8 is normal.

It just shuts off when you get on it? Or do you clutch in after making some boost? You're using the HKS bov kit right?
yeah i am using the HKS, it turned off 3x on me yesterday after accelerating alittlebit faster, "not boosting"
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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14.8 corrseponds to the 1/4 mile time that will result at that level lol anywayz about the noise from the glove box well thats located closer to the tranny and I know the rally cars you can hear that really loud inside of them even a few of our past cars had whining transmission noises from inside the car
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
14.8 is normal.

It just shuts off when you get on it? Or do you clutch in after making some boost? You're using the HKS bov kit right?
yeah i am using the HKS, it turned off 3x on me yesterday after accelerating alittlebit faster, "not boosting"
Check aaallllll your piping. I had a similar problem. Check the couplers around your intercooler. Thats where I had a pipe come off and my car ran like sssshiiiznit!
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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kamitsu crippie is 1up.. im sure he can help you out if not i can take a look also.. i would check your piping for leaks, and your VAC lines.. also you should get tuned asap.. try logging your a/f number while you drive and see were they dip into and let everyone know what the a.f is reading when it turns off.. the spooling sound should be normal from hearing the turbo spool lol.. its a light whistle sound and should be normal.

i would take it back to your installer and let them know whats going on also so they can recheck their steps and diagnose what the problem is.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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The AFRs on your wideband are typical. The Toyota stock ECUs stagger all over the place in vac due to closed loop throttle control.

As far as the cutting off, you need be VERY observative to the conditions, throttle, boost (if any) and AFRs. That might be a super lean point on the base map, it could be a clutch in rich spot due to the MAF car....Try to take note as to what is going on at that time D.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Spooling sound could also be that the big rubber grommet was removed by your firewall for the wiring and hoses to go through. So more sound could be heard in the cabin.
Old Mar 23, 2007 | 11:47 PM
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Ok the noise coming from the glove box has been fixed , it was a vac line that wasnt zip tied correctly..

As for the tunning, i cant wait till tommorow

Dyno numbers will be posted tommorow.

Thanks all.
Old Apr 7, 2007 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kumitsu
Originally Posted by Joe_Dezod
14.8 is normal.

It just shuts off when you get on it? Or do you clutch in after making some boost? You're using the HKS bov kit right?
yeah i am using the HKS, it turned off 3x on me yesterday after accelerating alittlebit faster, "not boosting"
so why was it turning off ? ? ?
Old Apr 7, 2007 | 04:53 AM
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14.7-8 is the stock ideal a/f at idle/cruising.

with larger injectors, sometimes you need to richen that mixture up a bit to get a comfortable idle that wont stall out the car.
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