What Exactly Is A "Conservative" Boost?
Damn... you guys are really making it last. You mind if I ask what type of turbo you have? By the pics in your profile, is it a Dezod?
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From: Parsippany, NJ
all custom, its a ebay 57 trim to4e, i ran it untunned for sometime on 6psi till i noticed my afr was 16 and that wayyyyy too lean so then i started se3lf tuning it
lol beg to differ slofo has had more issues
all my issues were things like blown turbos, and couplers blowing off all just things i have been lazy to check....my motor is perfect =]
Definitely. I've read up as much as possible, and most of the advice guides people to buy kits. I'm about to place an order with DESCENDANT, since there kits are more marketed to the daily driver. As for the tune, I thought that wasn't necessary, since the kits came with a PNP fuel map - or have I made an extremely incorrect assumption?
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Definitely. I've read up as much as possible, and most of the advice guides people to buy kits. I'm about to place an order with DESCENDANT, since there kits are more marketed to the daily driver. As for the tune, I thought that wasn't necessary, since the kits came with a PNP fuel map - or have I made an extremely incorrect assumption?
honestly if your planning on buying a kit thats reliable and around that price buy a ptuning kit its hella reliable and daily driven fine, has a great sized hotside that makes it fuel friendly
they say that its a pnp but no 2 cars are ever the same any good tuner will tell you this, so what works for one ca rwont for another, what does this say for descendant? they are selling a kit with a basemap
honestly if your planning on buying a kit thats reliable and around that price buy a ptuning kit its hella reliable and daily driven fine, has a great sized hotside that makes it fuel friendly
honestly if your planning on buying a kit thats reliable and around that price buy a ptuning kit its hella reliable and daily driven fine, has a great sized hotside that makes it fuel friendly
I saw the Ptuning kits, and I have to admit - they're quite beautiful, but the price is up there! It's over $1k more than Dezod or DESCENDANT
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Descendant and PTuning both offer amazing kits but they are both built for two different purposes. PTuning is hands down the most powerful kit and Descendant is built more for moderate boost and simplicity. I wouldn't mind owning either to be honest. If you are looking for conservative and want to save money, go Descendant but always always always invest in a rock solid tune from a reputable shop like PTuning.
Please don't bash.... but I was reading this thread and it sounds like a lot of peeps on here have different brand F/I setups... what would you all say, by possibly listing Pros/Cons that you've experienced with each of the major brands? Are the higher costs such as with the P-Tuning kit over say some of the others worth it? I mean sometimes the higher pricing comes with either better quality or additional parts/service that others do not. And sometimes certain brand products are simply a little over priced.
I have a mildly performance modified N/A setup. And just havent really researched the F/I setups in the past just because of the major cost investment needed up front for it.
ie... TT, Dezod, P-Tuning, DESCENDANT, etc.
I have a mildly performance modified N/A setup. And just havent really researched the F/I setups in the past just because of the major cost investment needed up front for it.
ie... TT, Dezod, P-Tuning, DESCENDANT, etc.
Descendant and PTuning both offer amazing kits but they are both built for two different purposes. PTuning is hands down the most powerful kit and Descendant is built more for moderate boost and simplicity. I wouldn't mind owning either to be honest. If you are looking for conservative and want to save money, go Descendant but always always always invest in a rock solid tune from a reputable shop like PTuning.
no s***? hmmm hadn't heard about them going under... or maybe I just hadn't paid attention to the "turbo" threads that much. Last big turbo buzz I heard was when Greddy went out...at least if memory serves I believe it was Greddy that did.
Ah, thanks for the information. I'll have to find a good tuner, then. Hey... you're from Maryland? Who would you recommend? I'm about 20 minutes from Baltimore
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I saw the Ptuning kits, and I have to admit - they're quite beautiful, but the price is up there! It's over $1k more than Dezod or DESCENDANT
. I know the kit is highly recommended by many in the Scion community, but I haven't really found any complaints about DESCENDANT. Plus, their kit includes a lifetime warranty, which is always a bonus
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I saw the Ptuning kits, and I have to admit - they're quite beautiful, but the price is up there! It's over $1k more than Dezod or DESCENDANT
.well heres what i suggest, buy the descendant kit,(it looks amazing too) then with the 1000 you saved you can spend 500 of that getting tuned at ptuning
and yea the only tuner id send you off to around here is ptuning if you were more southern id say mike (elevationtc)
Descendant and PTuning both offer amazing kits but they are both built for two different purposes. PTuning is hands down the most powerful kit and Descendant is built more for moderate boost and simplicity. I wouldn't mind owning either to be honest. If you are looking for conservative and want to save money, go Descendant but always always always invest in a rock solid tune from a reputable shop like PTuning.
.Yes, I was going for a conservative kit. It seems like PTuning fits the needs of the daily driver/race track tC owners quite well, but I don't really plan on visiting the track, or boosting past 10-11 PSI. I'm trying to find a good balance between power and reliability.
tcturbo07 - Thanks for the advice!
rangerddya - Thank you too for the advice! Thanks for your input regarding the brands, too. Oh... OMFG - you have a beautiful ride! I kind of wish I went with white, now... I'll try to pull something off with my Flint Mica
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lol to sum it up todd (TT) took lots of peoples money and sent them half their kit or nothing at all and is now bankrupt, k no need for others to imput it summed it up
Last edited by cburglb34; Feb 3, 2010 at 01:52 AM.
Oh I've been here for over 4 years.. lol. Just since I have a modded NA setup and FI was/is pretty pricey no matter how you slice it... just haven't cruised the FI threads that much is all.






