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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 03:08 AM
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hey thinking about getting a supercharger. what i wanted to ask to you who have one is, is it really worth it? i mean i don't want the car to be breaking down on me or the supercharger breaking down. should i just waste my money on something else? thanks
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 03:55 AM
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been in the same boat as you. Either supercharger or bite the bullet and buy turbo toyotas , dezod or wait for rado kit.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:02 AM
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what are you goals? whats your budget? what power do you want to make? daily driver or more track oriented? all these need to be addressed before deciding.....
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Supercharger, my roommate bought a turbo kit and now his car blew its engine on its stock tune and stock boost settings. I say the supercharger is the way to go if you wany reliability and ease of use.
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Originally Posted by kikcaffine
my roommate bought a turbo kit and now his car blew its engine on its stock tune and stock boost settings.
theres the problem.
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Originally Posted by kikcaffine
Supercharger, my roommate bought a turbo kit and now his car blew its engine on its stock tune and stock boost settings. I say the supercharger is the way to go if you wany reliability and ease of use.
what kit? imo, the s/c is so much harder to extract the same power as a turbo, and you reach max power only at redline, and thats for like less than a tenth of a sec.....if you want a little extra for daily driving, get a s/c.....if you want a significant increase with the same reliability, get a turbo....just cause that guys roomie blew his engine, you have no idea what caused it, etc.....you can blow your motor off a complete stock tC as well as a boosted tC....
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The Turbonetics with the unichip
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Originally Posted by malibuboy54
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Supercharger, my roommate bought a turbo kit and now his car blew its engine on its stock tune and stock boost settings. I say the supercharger is the way to go if you wany reliability and ease of use.
what kit? imo, the s/c is so much harder to extract the same power as a turbo, and you reach max power only at redline, and thats for like less than a tenth of a sec.....if you want a little extra for daily driving, get a s/c.....if you want a significant increase with the same reliability, get a turbo....just cause that guys roomie blew his engine, you have no idea what caused it, etc.....you can blow your motor off a complete stock tC as well as a boosted tC....
Yea but if something goes wrong with the supercharger and its stock you can bring it to the dealership and they will look at it and deal with it.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:43 AM
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well i think they both have their pros and cons, but since you want the extra reliability, just get the s/c installed by the dealer and you get a nice warranty with it......just do not mod it and your ok
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Also depends on how much upkeep you are willing to do with either setup. If you go supercharger your going to need to blow out the oil feed line every time you change your oil. This sprays oil onto the gears. If you go turbo your going to need to get for boost leaks, blown hoses, burnt oil etc. But either case your going to need to keep up with oil changes, use premium fuel and I would recommend running synthetic.
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I also plan on doing a road race course with my cousin but plan on using it as a DD so I would like the reliability of a supercharger but I know im gonna need the power that only comes from a turbo. So make a list of what you plan on doing with your car and let us know. Remember that the supercharger for 05-06 dropped in price to $1850.
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isn't the warranty of the s/c only good for a year?
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yeah if you install it yourself. (or have an non-toyota company install it) If you have the dealer install it it goes with the remainder of your full warranty (or atleast 3 years, 36k) . I have a 7 year /75k warranty, so it follows with that.
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Originally Posted by kikcaffine
Originally Posted by malibuboy54
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Supercharger, my roommate bought a turbo kit and now his car blew its engine on its stock tune and stock boost settings. I say the supercharger is the way to go if you wany reliability and ease of use.
what kit? imo, the s/c is so much harder to extract the same power as a turbo, and you reach max power only at redline, and thats for like less than a tenth of a sec.....if you want a little extra for daily driving, get a s/c.....if you want a significant increase with the same reliability, get a turbo....just cause that guys roomie blew his engine, you have no idea what caused it, etc.....you can blow your motor off a complete stock tC as well as a boosted tC....
Yea but if something goes wrong with the supercharger and its stock you can bring it to the dealership and they will look at it and deal with it.

If your supercharger is still stock and something that goes wrong with it you might not get it cover under warranty if the Dealership think you was racing it hard. It's on the warranty paper.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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OK... I had a s/c, and now I have a turbo. The current price of the s/c can't be beat. A turbo costs easily 2 1/2 times for a solid kit. If you do the s/c, don't come back and say you want more power and start toying around with the setup (pulleys ect). That really defeats the purpose of getting a warranted mod. I blew two of the those thing up.... It's best you leave it with the stock setting and be content with the power you're making. I can best describe the feel of the s/c as an added cam lift to the top end. It won't put you in your seat but it's fun.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Robs_tc
OK... I had a s/c, and now I have a turbo. The current price of the s/c can't be beat. A turbo costs easily 2 1/2 times for a solid kit. If you do the s/c, don't come back and say you want more power and start toying around with the setup (pulleys ect). That really defeats the purpose of getting a warranted mod. I blew two of the those thing up.... It's best you leave it with the stock setting and be content with the power you're making. I can best describe the feel of the s/c as an added cam lift to the top end. It won't put you in your seat but it's fun.
I couldn't agree more - with the S/C, you definitely feel a little more power, but you're not going to be blown away. All your power's in the higher RPM range, so you won't feel any low end gains with the stock setup. But you're warranty's intact as long as you don't modify the setup and/or "race" it (and make sure your oil level's ok). It's a mild boost (7 PSI at 6K), so reliability's there...the whole reason TRD went this route (in terms of warranty coverage).
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Really I like my supercharger alot, granted I do have the 9.5 pulley on it. I feel its now just the rite amount of power with out making it over kill and un drivable.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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I love the s/c and anyone who says you can't get out of it what you can get out of a turbo has never modded a car with out readily available pre-manufactured application/platform specific parts.
*puts on flame suit*
The blower itself was engeniered by Vortech for well over 400hp and NST will custom make any size pulley you want, add the Rippmods cams or a custom regrind, EMS, fuel, etc, etc, internals, etc and you can build yourself quite a monster. ...obviously tho it will take more knowledge and research on your part. I've had Whipples on cars that have put down 800+

Of course half the benefits of buying the TRD S/C are out the window once you start modding it.
Plain and simple, TRD designed this kit conservatively to be SAFE and RELIABLE with longevity in mind.

Both turbos and super chargers have their advantages, disadvantages and fanboys. Neither is better, they're just different.

As far as tC's go ... both can be reliable until you go to far and, inevitably, something gives out.



btw ... he11 yeah it's worth it, whatever means of force feeding you choose.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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The supercharger just doesnt seem worth it for me, Im probably going to get just so I dont have to spend an xtra 2K to get my engine tuned, cuase without it tuned, IT WILL PROBABLY BLOW! But if you have 5K burning a hole than get a turbo, the give much more horse power and sound better! A supercharger only makes a 15.1 1/4mile, the colbalt s/c makes a 14.1, a full sec difference from the tC and a 5 hp difference, that alone makes me mad! TRD, needs to get their act together and come out with something more....faster for that same 200 hp!

But yeah, if you have the money go for a turbo, a s/c cost just as much for a stage 0 zpi, 230whp! for the 05-06 so go for it, just make sure to get it tuned! Cause you dont want to pay for it later!
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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^^ yeah i don't think anyones gonna run the trd s/c w/o the trd reflash



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