i think you all are missing the point. congrats on the build. stellar performance guys. good numbers. yes it is faster than a lot of tc's out there............ but not many

 

I've seen xB's do low 14's on stock motor and boost. Nothing but boost and Dr's.

 

Just so you know we did not pick the thread title ....Someone else posted this in here..

I would love to swap the motor in this car but I have yet to find a good option that does not require hacking the car up...Hence the motor build. Which honestly didn't cost that much. I can't see the short block costing much more than $3500.00...

What kind of power do you think is necessary to impress somebody ?? Also why if it's possbile to get a 1.5l/1.6l Honda to run 10s do you think it's a waste of time to build the 1.5l xB motor ??

Most of the N/A honda's you are speaking about have built motors in their cars as well.....
A standard GSR swap still only usually runs 14 or 15s with no mod's

BTW this xB that isn't impressive already smoked a B16a swapped Civic ..

all while carrying FIVE people in the car

 

just thought id say something honda blocks flow REALLY well ... the 1.5 in the xa and xb will not make the power that many hondas with the same displacement have made.

 

i'm impressed that you got a toaster to do 14's in the 1/4mile my tC only does high 15's up here in CO

 

What do the block's flow ???? Are you speaking of the head maybe ??

I'm very well aquainted with what Honda motors are capable of.
We raced them for many years prior to begining the program with Scion..

I'm not stating by any means that I can run 10s in this car, but I don't think this motor is maxxed out by any means...

Thanks for eveyone's kinds words ...to all you non believers I guess I will just have to prove it ....

 

:embarrassed:

yes head.

 

by all means "prove it" and i wouldnt exactly call me a "non believer" all i AM is a person with an opinion and MY opinion is that you have a nice set up on the 1.5L..... BUT im not too sure if it is worth the amount of money you would have to put into the motor, for what you would get out.

this is all... and once again. sorry for my carelessness head not block.

 

Now THAT I would love to see a video of. Impressive considering a pretty much stock hatch with B16A usually run a mid to high 13 second 1/4 mile time. Perhaps traction is the issue at the track? Unfortunately the Xa's 1.5 liter is very difficult to make fast and it's small displacement doesn't help torque (turbo or no turbo). That and the lack of parts make it tough.

 

it may have a fully built motor, but thats mainly for reliability of the motor. lets not forget that its only running a tiny little disco potato. im sure if they wanted to they could slap a 4088 on there, turn up the boost, and run some sick times.

 

^^^ Brett took the words right out of my mouth.

who cares about Hondas, and what they run! this thread was about the accomplishment that was made in thier XB, and some of you are getting bent all out of shape about a 14sec xb. that pass in the video was at 95mph.... i can only get my xb to go 92mph on the highway down a big ___ hill.... so i give you guys major props!

i think you guys need to slap a bigger turbo on there, or turn the boos up a bit =)

and next on the list....












a new set of half shafts...LOL

 

yea, like I said. It is VERY hard to get the xB to run that fast. Plus you are talking strait line here, that xB is probably at least 600lbs lighter than the tC and will crush the tC in an auto-X probably. And that's from my experience, not opinion. Somebody mentioned the cost wouldnt be worth that? Leslie mentioned the motor build to be $3500, the turbo kit is around $3k most likley.... others things such as clutch and soforth. That's well worth it!!! And that is faster than most tC's for sure! Can't put a price on the face of somone after getting beat by a box.
Motor swap???? that would be getting close to a $10-15K upgrade... 2zz motor used the cheapest one ive run across is $5k (not including transmission needed), custom halfshafts, motormounts, hacking frame rails, radiator, shift linkages, and all that is to put a STOCK 2zz in... that's $15k screw that.

Congrats on getting the xB to run fast, the people who have negitive opinions on here just don't know what it takes, or they are disappointed that the put a $5000 turbo kit on their tC and it ran close to the same times

 

I have to disagree with that statement.

Why does everyone keep talking like this is the first and only xB to run low 14's on boost? To be quite honest, they didn't even have to beef up the internals to run low 14's. They could have done this on a stock motor.


You forget this is in the F/I tC section? Outside of this area yeah, but not within this area.

 

Umm....I think I'm going to have to say NAAAA....on the 13sec 1/4mile for a fairly stock B16a hatch. And confirm that a GSR swap still only runs low 15's usually.

NEVER EVER seen (even bolt-on ones) a B16a Civic hatch pulling anything near a 13sec run let alone mid 13's.

 

i didnt know u put an xB in the 14's!! I thought u had a tC? And yea im talking about in the real world, that xB is faster than a crapload of tC's. Not getting into this internet racing BS again.

 

Of course I have a tC. Re read my comment. I said I've seen xB's in the 14's. What's the "real" world? The couple of tC's that live near you that happen to run crappy times? Again, this is the F/I tC section where you rarely see any 14sec boosted tC's. Lets not get ahead of ourselves now shall we. That statement applies to N/A'ed tC's, and a crap load of Supercharged tC's. But turbo tC's? That's bitting off a little to much...

 

lol dont make fun of us stock tCs.. im saving all my money to join the turbotoyota turbo tc clan lol right now im just plain slow....

 

Lets not confuse

"Beating the Drivers" with "Beating the Cars".

 

hey im on your side rhythemnsmoke

 

uh, no. I think many boosted tC's here are faster than u actually, i'm not a bench racer though. I doubt u have seen xB's run in the 14's dont make up stuff. If u have, tell them to race... cause i havent seen any except my close friend. Out of all the events ive been to, I've NEVER seen a 14 sec 1st gen xB, never.