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Old May 23, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RusWolf
At 2300 RPM's...hmm kind of early ? If i shift at 3000 RPM regular then i'm gonna hit boost everytime i drive. and if i drive about 60 mph then i'm gonna be in boost zone again , right ?
inst 2300 kind of early ?


Someone needs to learn a few things about Boost and driving in VAC. You keep your foot out of the floor board, you can not boost the car PERIOD. You drive normal, and you don't hit boost. When you give it enough throttle input to come out of VAC, then you will hit boost by 2300rpm is the impression that Ben has reported. You can cruise the interstate at 80mph and never be in boost. It's called Vaccum (VAC).
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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yeah if you go WOT in vaccum in 5th gear on the interstate that puts a LOT of stress on your engine. in fact you DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

the 2300 rpm happens in 1st , 2nd , 3rd etc.. when going from a stop. it may be a little early but honestly i haven't really checked. i'll update after saturday.
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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do people get boost on automatics?
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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^^^ Yes :D
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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If I knew that toyota would've screwed me over on my warranty, I would have gone stage 0 rather than get the TRD Supercharger, but I made my choice.

BTW looks sweet, and gotta love the whoosh!
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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yep zpi kit is safe on an automatic they just suggest that you go with their upgrade to make the transmission safe for boost

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=35

with the valve body upgrade here:

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...roducts_id=286
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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what kind of oil are you using now?? also are you burning up any oil.. what emanage did you use also?? blue or ultimate..

and why
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yeah if you go WOT in vaccum in 5th gear on the interstate that puts a LOT of stress on your engine. in fact you DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
is that bad??
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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is it a huge performance difference being as your not actually manually shifting through gears? and how does boost work is it automatic or something you push on your steering wheel?
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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Congrats Neb I grew up in the Quad Cities about an hour from you. I miss all the open roads there to really let the car loose!!! I might have to check ur car out next time I visit. Rims are sick to by the way.
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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woah lot of questions here ok.


what kind of oil are you using now?? also are you burning up any oil.. what emanage did you use also?? blue or ultimate.

they just filled up some cheap oil to break in the turbo and to get me home. i am getting an oil change tomorrow with some mobile 1 synthetic.

i have an emange blue right now.

and its bad because at WOT you're valve body is sucking in air and you have a vaccum with the turbo so essentially youre creating stress at the manifolds and in the heads. Its not a big deal at such low boost but it does effect the length of your engine

now to t-mojod
this will get you started

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo1.htm

essentially the exhaust gases spin the turbine of the turbo and sucks in air. the air coming into compresses and creats pressure (boost) this enters your engine making more power.

bc more air + fuel = more power
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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pete another reason is when you go WOT in 5th gear you'll be boosting a ton of the time and that much boost into your engine for 15+ seconds is just not good for the car.
Old May 23, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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what can be done to not encounter that other then not smashing it.. what if i needed a quick burst??.. im asuming down shifting is out of the question... im guessing a slow push on the pedal would be better then smashing?
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by RusWolf
At 2300 RPM's...hmm kind of early ? If i shift at 3000 RPM regular then i'm gonna hit boost everytime i drive. and if i drive about 60 mph then i'm gonna be in boost zone again , right ?
inst 2300 kind of early ?


Someone needs to learn a few things about Boost and driving in VAC. You keep your foot out of the floor board, you can not boost the car PERIOD. You drive normal, and you don't hit boost. When you give it enough throttle input to come out of VAC, then you will hit boost by 2300rpm is the impression that Ben has reported. You can cruise the interstate at 80mph and never be in boost. It's called Vaccum (VAC).
Easy off little bit bud..
If i knew everything i wouldnt even ask or be here..
so FYI i asked to know cuz i'm starting to learn about turbo before i decide to det it... and thanks for letting me know.

So pretty much as long as i dont floor it boost will not engage ?
so pretty much
Old May 23, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
what can be done to not encounter that other then not smashing it.. what if i needed a quick burst??.. im asuming down shifting is out of the question... im guessing a slow push on the pedal would be better then smashing?
yeah just don't go WOT. you can still accelerate and be in VAC

but if its an emergency you need to downshift
Old May 23, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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exactly rus. you will learn that at a certain pedal pressure you will start to feel the boost kick in (a boost gauge helps)

and no you can be at 3000 and not make boost but at wot at 3k rpm you will make boost. Make sense?
Old May 23, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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^^ Yes it does make sence.. the only thing i dont know is WOT ..what does that mean ?
Old May 23, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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WOT= Wide Open Throttle
Old May 23, 2007 | 05:05 PM
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WOT = Foot smashed on the pedal
Old May 23, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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yep WOT means FLOOR IT
Old May 24, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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lol.. thanks guys



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