I ahve been hashing this out for a while, and i was going to go with a SC instead because of the warranty with the big T to back it up.... Basically i have the highest warranty with my car including GAP insurance, and if i added a turbo i might as well sell back my warranty becasue it will void it, and no Mass-Mognesen Act(?msp) could help.. Any suggestions with that>?

If i sold it, i would get back about $2 G's.... I would leave the Gap insurace though.

Putting that aside, how are both of these Kits holding up (Long Run)... I know there are thousands of different posts, and i have read many on the pros and cons, but would love to hear from those who ACTUALLY OWN these kits, no side bar comments. Actual USE, not heresay.

How many times did you have to take it in after the install and the cost of each of those "tweaks" were needed?

Thanks for you time....and future comments.

 

ZPI very respectable company and so is Turbonetics, so n e way you go is great, but i think Turbonetics would probably be best

 

Thats great but WHY? Please i need people who will SELL me on it. Expertise well needed. Again, it will help from those who actually own these products to comment. But thanks for your opinion...

 

TURBONETICS.. they have a safe tune that will allow you to use your car as a DD for a while..

on the other hand .. ZPI is boostin a higher numbers, and is not really that reliable, and the company's shipping procedures are a whole other story. basically if you dont live near ZPI, do not buy from ZPI.

how can a tC with the ZPI kit beat an STI or Maserati.. turn the boost up like they do.

 

also, the turbonetics kit has a 1 year no hassle money back guarantee...so even if you total your front end and destroy the turbo within the first year, you get a new one free!

 

I love my Turbonetcs kits. Both of our cars run amazing. ZPI is a good company and its a good kit. Do alot of research and find out which kit best fits you. Both kits have there strongs points.

Turbonetics...Bigger turbo, Ball bearing turbo, 12 month warrenety, Fit anf Finish get an A+, everything made in house so its not a pieced together kit.

ZPI, Fast spooling turbo, Costom charge pipe colors, Louder BOV, More tuning options.

 

Turbonetics, you get more value for the $$$.

 

What about dezod? ... you didnt consider them?

 

i can't say much for the STi, because I honestly don't know the logistics of it, but I am familiar with exactly why the tC can beat the Maserati:

1. Maserati has 395hp , but is packing somewhere in the ballpark of 4300lbs, that's way heavier than the tC.

2. Maserati is a paddle shift with an cambriocorsa tranny ie: no external clutch, basically like launching an auto since you can't bang it as hard.

3. Top speed the Maserati is going to take you obviously, but from a dig to say 100, the tC can whomp it on a moderate boost level.

tim, the guy with the STi is on SL, him or Kenny would have to tell you what he had done to it and what the boost was at on each.

At the end of the day, reliability is NOT an issue on either of our kits on the recommended boost levels and a good tune (Stage 1 comes w/ pre-loaded map). Travis(rhythmnsmoke) has been boosted for a good 6-7 months beating the hell out of his/Misti's daily driver and they're good. ScionDad has our Stage 0 on his daughter's car and it's running good for right at a year now, Peteyd has our original kit, the starter of this whole thing and his is running well on an auto tC-that kit is approx. 16-18 months old.

At this point in time, we're reaching the point where we've been shipping kits for exactly a year and those cars are I'm sure hitting the 10k mile mark if not more and are running strong from what we hear, and I'd imagine if they weren't we'd definitely hear!

Turbonetics is a good kit also, very comparable to ours. Obviously their warranty is kick a$$ as well. We offer a lifetime warranty on labor if you do decide to come visit us, as well as a warranty on the kit, need to ask Kenny/Sean for the specifics of it.

Our shipping definitely leaves something to be desired, but that is something that we are continually working on and overcoming. At this point, kits are completely ready to ship again the moment our manifolds arrive. We've shipped a ton of kits, so to say that you have to come to us to get it is definitely misleading.

Call the shop tomorrow if you'd like to speak specifics with one of the guys, I'm sure wedrivescions will be in here shortly and he can probably offer you some as well!

 

I would look at this way, If u want more power from a stock bolt on i would go with the ZPI, they say that you will be pushing 300whp, now if u want warrenty and probly a littel nicer kit i would go with the turbonetics. I would go with the ZPI becaause the tuning options and power

 

one think you need to do is make sure you have a wideband gauge and oil pressure gauge before the turbo install or have them install them while they are installing your turbo - i wouldnt trust any tune on my car (without being able to see how its acting while you drive).

Unless any of the companies have every part in stock and email you saying they do .... i wouldnt give anybody money w/o that.

 

I think I would stick with the Dezod...the ONLY reason I like it over the Turbonetics is that I don't like recirculated BOV and the closed dump tube. As for the ZPI, that piping looks like ****! Not to mention the flow loss due to the friction that is caused with all the extra bends.. Plus the friendly help is nice, from Dezod that is

Dezod =>
Turbonetics =>
ZPI =>

 

Watching, but my vote was w/o a doubt ZPI. Great company, been to there shop and shootout. have seen the turbonetics and zpi kits first hand. Piping is not an issue RSracer. and you have the option of customizing your kit if you wish insteed of being like everyone else with the black powder coating on the turbonetics.

 

if you want to check out what our pipes look like, i'd search the first page of Jester's ZPI "turbo kit" build thread and WeDriveScions ZPI stage 0 installed thread. Not sure what pics you saw that you think they look "constictive" and like "****." Both of these guys kits look sexy and all the piping we use is a combination of 2" and 2.5" stainless.

You can also visit the customer gallery at www.zpiracing.net/gallery to see multiple kits with different piping options/colors/etc.

 

Turbonetics of course. With the best warranty and sexy looking kit out the box. Who could ask for anything more

 

Where did I say that they looked "constrictive" ? I never mentioned anything about pipe size or pipe reduction. I said extra bends cause more friction in the flow as shown in the pictures you had me look at...not to mention the 180 out of the turbo looks like crap

 

Yea, is that "J" pipe really necessary? The other ZPI kits look cleaner without it.

 

I think you will be happy with either kit. They are the two most popular kits in the community. With either choice you will have years of reliable fun!!!

If you have any specific questions please feel free to AIM me or shoot me an email. The nice thing about our products are the fact they are all built modular. We will continue to develop upgrades and as we do they will all be a bolt in affair such as the intercooler upgrade featured above that looks like "****". The reason the pipes are configured this way so that stepping up from a stage 0 is a fairly easy affair. This is just an example of the innovation put into our products.

 

Specific to your liking = ZPI

Specific to their liking = Turbonetics

 

Oh man, wonder what's considered reliable? Daily Driven, stop light hammering, weekend raced for nearly half a year....here.