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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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I had a random thought while watching the green bay game today. How come I haven't heard about any HD in-dash monitors? The technology has existed for some time now. I mean, wouldn't it be sick to run an xbox 360 on an HD monitor in the car? Maybe they do exist, and I just haven't heard about them. For example, how come the new Pioneer monitors don't have HD compatibility? Oh well, random thought of the day.
Old Sep 23, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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well my best guess is that they are soo small the diffrences would be negligable. ok put a 30" inch HD monitor in your or anything higher than 15" then yes it would be, but anything small like 7 or less, i dont see much of a point behind it. though it would be cool. lol
Old Sep 23, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Good point, I never thought of that aspect of it.
Old Sep 23, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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yeap a 19in screen is the minimun for at least 720P
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:18 AM
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its all about the resolution.

1366x768 is 720p
1920x1080 is 1080p

But yes, you wont notice on smaller screens. Good brightness, contrast and true colors be more noticeable
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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It would be a waste. Its such a small screen that it doesnt need that extra resolution. You can find a 720p tv in a 15-19inch. Thats the smallest they go. And the smallest you can go with 1080p is 40, except for sharp makes a 32" 1080p, which is pretty much for gaming. Sorry I sell tv's part time lol.... (Magnolia HT)...
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Looking at the Pioneer, JVC, etc.. and owning the Clarion, these screens are not good, even when viewing DVD source. Im guessing these are interlaced displays.

It would not be a waste. I have owned a 9 inch portable DVD player and a 9 inch progressive scan portable DVD player and the difference is very apparent.

Its just a matter of time.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:20 PM
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^^ LCD's are not interlaced by design, they're progressive so every pixel is mapped.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 07ToOcOoLs
It would be a waste. Its such a small screen that it doesnt need that extra resolution. You can find a 720p tv in a 15-19inch. Thats the smallest they go. And the smallest you can go with 1080p is 40, except for sharp makes a 32" 1080p, which is pretty much for gaming. Sorry I sell tv's part time lol.... (Magnolia HT)...
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Originally Posted by kileil
^^ LCD's are not interlaced by design, they're progressive so every pixel is mapped.
True.. and thats part of the problem. I doubt the signal is progressive scan. You would probably get a better picture hooking up the output on the unit to a standard tube TV.
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Dude it would be the waste. The difference b/t (2) 9 inch screens isnt the resolution. Its the contrast and the overall quality. So yeah it would be a waste to make an indash or hd screen that is less than 19" because you wouldnt be able to see a difference because the screen is so small!!!!! Why do you think that manufacturers dont make hd tv's that small? because its just DUMB!
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Originally Posted by 07ToOcOoLs
Dude it would be the waste. The difference b/t (2) 9 inch screens isnt the resolution. Its the contrast and the overall quality. So yeah it would be a waste to make an indash or hd screen that is less than 19" because you wouldnt be able to see a difference because the screen is so small!!!!! Why do you think that manufacturers dont make hd tv's that small? because its just DUMB!
If you actually think that a high definition display, with a high defintion or progressive scan dvd player would not be a noticable improvement your way off. Just having a progressive scan dvd player on the current display would be a noticable improvement, provided the display is actually progressive.

Also Im referring more to HD in general. A HD compat display with HD player would be an improvement.

When the next gen players come out with HD screens we will revisit this thread Actually Toshiba has one on the way.
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:04 PM
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A 480p resolution monitor that accepted 1080p would be quite useful. What matters more is that the monitor can accept the high quality signal, not that it's of a high resolution.

Higher resolution lets you be closer without seeing pixels. There's a small gain in detail when going from 480p and 720p, and there's no difference in detail between 720p and 1080p. 1080p resolution displays is all marketing hype...it's not a necessity.

1080p vs 720p Comparison: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...t=767929&pp=30
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^^^i don't care what the avs forum link has to say. take 2 projectors from the same brand. one that displays 1080p natively and one that will display 720p natively. And I'm not talking about BS $1000 lcd projectors. I'm talking high quality 3chip dlp's. Blast them on a 14' screen and I GUARANTEE you will see a difference in quality. there is a difference however most screens are too small to show it. when you cram that many pixels into such a small space they become crowded and your eye can't pick it out anymore. on a big screen you can see it because the pixels become larger on the screen up close. I will say it is not a necessity. I will take a properly calibrated 720p display over an off the shelf best buy 1080p display. I work in the custom home theater industry. I design, service, program, and install multi-hundred thousand dollars home audio systems including dedicated home theaters. If you need credentials I can provide a list long enough to bore you to death
Old Sep 24, 2007 | 11:54 PM
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Major pwnage right now...lol. Did you go to school for something like that? Just curious as to what sort of training you need.
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most of my training is on the job. just seeing something and reading about it. or getting in a new product and playing with it. i go to trade shows as well. i'm a big gear head so i'm always playing with something new. most of our big manufacturers offer training on their products as well so i sign up for that stuff or get them to come to our office and teach everyone. i love what i do. it's a fun time we live in
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 05:19 AM
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hahahaha, my point is that it would be stupid to come out with a 6" HD double din player/monitor.... Why do you think manufacturers dont make them? If there was a need for one and it made sense manufacturers would make them, but they dont!!! seriously you just socal you just sound retarded... I wasnt talking about progressive scan or interlaced resolution, I was talking about hd monitors, thats what this whole topic was about! Theres no way you would see a difference from a HD 6' monitor (if they started making them) and a non hd monitor, because the pixels would be huge!
Old Sep 25, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pb4ugoout
^^^i don't care what the avs forum link has to say. take 2 projectors from the same brand. one that displays 1080p natively and one that will display 720p natively. And I'm not talking about BS $1000 lcd projectors. I'm talking high quality 3chip dlp's. Blast them on a 14' screen and I GUARANTEE you will see a difference in quality. there is a difference however most screens are too small to show it. when you cram that many pixels into such a small space they become crowded and your eye can't pick it out anymore. on a big screen you can see it because the pixels become larger on the screen up close. I will say it is not a necessity. I will take a properly calibrated 720p display over an off the shelf best buy 1080p display. I work in the custom home theater industry. I design, service, program, and install multi-hundred thousand dollars home audio systems including dedicated home theaters. If you need credentials I can provide a list long enough to bore you to death
Wow...perhaps you should look at the link. Credentials? Please...

The comparison is 2 calibrated Marantz DLP projectors. One is 720p and one is 1080p. No visible difference in detail between the images. 130" @ 12' away. I assume you've heard of Marantz as you're an installer

3 chip DLPs? How many people do you know with 3 chip DLP projectors? Only a handful are less than $20,000. So perhaps there will be a difference in quality between a couple of $20,000+ projectors...but I live in the real world where 99% of people will not spend more than $5,000 on an HDTV.

Originally Posted by nauticac
Major pwnage right now...lol
pwnage? Unless he can whip out some good evidence...I'm gonna say his sales pitches to get people to spend more money than they need to is getting to his head. I highly doubt he's actually compared two projectors running identical 1080p sources

1080p resolution displays are marketing hype...and wow an installer doesn't agree with me
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