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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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so i'm laying out my gauges and set-up for my tc with a scangaugeII and zeitronix LCD display. now because i am a neat freak and want everything well laid out and integrated, i want to put one of them in the storage cubby, and one of them under a single din stereo with a flip out screen with GPS navigation.

so basically i need help choosing a good stereo that has these features: single din and GPS, and under $1000.

these are what i've found at crutchfield.com

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...9412NAV&tp=144

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http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...ures_and_specs

there is this on which is just over $1000, but if it is worth it, i'll consider it:

http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...PNAV512&tp=144

so if you have any suggestions, or think one of these is a really bad idea, please let me know.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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w205 + blackbird
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 04:32 PM
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w205 + blackbird
that is kinda nice and neat, but it isn't a single din, which means i can't fit one of the gauges under it, but thanks for answering.
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 06:58 PM
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don't buy jensen....it will take a $h*T on you fast
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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I think this might be a tad more economical:

HU: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...VT-617DVD.html

Adapter: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...KNA-G510.html#

That comes in at $930.

As stated, keep away from Jensen and Dual if you can avoid it. The JVC isn't a bad choice, but with the tiny little screen, nav might be hard to read and more distracting (bad) than beneficial.

This wouldn't be bad either, comes in at $900 with adapter: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...d+KVT-512.html
Old Mar 27, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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How important is music for this system, is SQ important to you? If so, it'd be nice to get a unit that has decent voltage on it's preouts. Not necessarliy a requirement for SQ, but it can sure help a lot.

Both of the Kenwoods mentioned thus far only have 2 volt outputs.
The JVC units only provide 2.5 volts
That specific Jensen unit puts out 4 volts, which would be better than the above.

Not suggesting you get the Jensen (as I'm sure people are shooting it down for other reasons), just that you consider units that have higher voltage preouts than those mentioned thus far, if SQ is a high priority for you.
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Originally Posted by nodsetse
How important is music for this system, is SQ important to you? If so, it'd be nice to get a unit that has decent voltage on it's preouts. Not necessarliy a requirement for SQ, but it can sure help a lot.

Both of the Kenwoods mentioned thus far only have 2 volt outputs.
The JVC units only provide 2.5 volts
That specific Jensen unit puts out 4 volts, which would be better than the above.

Not suggesting you get the Jensen (as I'm sure people are shooting it down for other reasons), just that you consider units that have higher voltage preouts than those mentioned thus far, if SQ is a high priority for you.
i want a nice audio system, but that really isn't where i am focused with my car, it is more of a gt car. sporty and luxurious, but not overly dedicated in either direction.

so down the road i might put in some better speakers, and maybe and ED sub under the trunk floor, but i'm not a hardcore audiophile.
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I'm pretty sure the pre-out voltage doesn't determine sound quality nearly as much as you're giving it credit for. Sure most higher end units have a higher pre-out voltage, but that's only so they can work optimally with a wider range of amplifiers. The difference in sound quality is negligible between 2 and 4v pre-outs or 4 and 8v pre-outs. There is more chance for the weaker 2v signal to pick up interference from surrounding electrical sources, but a proper install and properly shielded RCA's negate that chance of interference.

Not trying to criticize you or nitpick in any way, but I really think he won't notice much, if any difference better 2v and 5v+ outputs if the install is good.
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^ Did you miss where I said "Not necessarliy a requirement for SQ, but it can sure help a lot."?

Your post indicates you're only considering noise, and you seem to be implying that was my only concern, however, that's not the case. And no, your statement "that's only so they can work optimally with a wider range of amplifiers" is incorrect, as there is another important reason.

The difference between 2 & 4v outputs also equates to greater system dynamic range capability, which is something that anyone serious about sound should pursue. Of course you already adequately covered the low-level signal noise aspect, and the potential advantages of such.

Now I agree this isn't likely to make much difference for some people, and it sounds like 2v would be fine for the draxcaliber's needs, but higher voltage would still be preferred if he can locate a unit that has them and still meets all his other requirements.
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Originally Posted by nodsetse
^ Did you miss where I said "Not necessarliy a requirement for SQ, but it can sure help a lot."?

Your post indicates you're only considering noise, and you seem to be implying that was my only concern, however, that's not the case. And no, your statement "that's only so they can work optimally with a wider range of amplifiers" is incorrect, as there is another important reason.

The difference between 2 & 4v outputs also equates to greater system dynamic range capability, which is something that anyone serious about sound should pursue. Of course you already adequately covered the low-level signal noise aspect, and the potential advantages of such.

Now I agree this isn't likely to make much difference for some people, and it sounds like 2v would be fine for the draxcaliber's needs, but higher voltage would still be preferred if he can locate a unit that has them and still meets all his other requirements.
I agree with this and sorry for not completely understanding your position. If he can get it, a higher pre-out voltage would be better.
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