My car was in the R&D dept today to look over the application possibilities. I wanted something that would fit under the carpet and take the place of the PS foam storage. A 10W1v2 enclosure would fit, but it would leave only a .5" opening and that's not acceptable for output. Personally, I would go with a couple of 6W0 ported which would have the same power handling and output as the 10W1v2 sealed, but we will not make a Stealthbox with drivers smaller than 10".

Here is what the application will be:

a single 10" driver in a sealed enclosure
fits on the DS or PS (not both)
will not go under the carpet

Here's where I need feedback from Tc owners:

1 - Passenger or driver side? (we're leaning passenger side)
2 - Would you be willing to cut the side panel so a deeper woofer can be used?
A 10W1v2 enclosure would fit into that cavity area on the passenger side panel and look flush when it's done. If a consumer was willing to cut out a piece of the side panel, the appearance would be the same, but a 10W3v3 or 10W6v2 can be used. The extra depth would be in the area behind the stock panel.
3 - Stealthbox loaded with a 10W1v2, 10W3v3, or 10W6v2? The cost of the enclosure would be about the same, but the divers add to the cost. The Stealthox is shipped preloaded with the driver so there are no options. The SQ will be similar but the bigger divers handle more power so there is more output to be had.
4 - About 2" of the trunk floor flap will need to be trimmed off so you can still remove it to get to the spare and storage, is this acceptable?
5 - A Stealthbox with a 10W1v2 would retail $500 - $550 range
A Stealthbox with a 10W3v3 would retail $550 - $600 range
A Stealthbox with a 10W6v2 would retail $750 - $800 range
These are estimates. I feel that the 10W3v3 is the happy medium and is what most Stealthbox applications are loaded with. Which would you buy? It seems that many of the JL Audio systems Tc owners post have W6v2 or W7 so I could be wrong about this.

The goal of the Stealthbox is to minimally impact the functionality of the vehicle and create the best driver/enclosure combo. Much of the R&D time will be spent making sure that the system matches the sonic signature of the vehicle.

We start work next week so your feedback would be valuable.

Thank you!

 

i would also agree on the pass side for the box, i would be willing to cut apart... and i would agree with going with a w3... they are well made subs and can get the right amount of bass no matter what kind of music you listen to.. just my 2 cents...

 

perhaps a box replicated from the OEM Bazooka in which you completely remove the passenger side panel in order to install the stealthbox.... W3v3 sounds good... if necessary, I'd cut on the panel...

 

JLTD- here's your answers..

1- passenger side.. better for us drivers
2- Personally I wouldn't want to cut the panel.. but if i had to I would..
another thing to consider are people who lease tc's, a friend of mine leases his, and those people couldn't cut those panels.. what would you have to help someone like that?

3- Just offer a stealthbox with a 10w3v3 then offer the "upgrades" to the other drivers..

4- Yes it is acceptable.. Again, because I own my own, it wouldnt be a problem to trip the floor flap.. but what about someone who's leasing it? guess they'd just fold it over? Just trying to help you be able to make the most sales

5- prices are a bit more, but from what i recall JL Audio was always a little more, but was worth it because your company makes subs that blow my mind! Yes I love your products!

I'd go with the standard 10w3v3 if i knew it would match the sonic capabilities of the tc's interior..

MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS.. too bad the stealthboxes don't have amps built in wanna put one in? maybe like a custom package into the floor where the styrofoam cubby holes are by the spare?

Hope that helps your company's decisions thanks for asking!

 

If the car is leased, that's something for the owner to consider. The modifications are not reversable and they will have to replace the panels. I am not sure how many leased Tc are out there.

The price would go way up if it replaced the entire panel.

 

yes i see your point JLTD.. it's more based on the larger majority of tc owners, they own their rides..

would you be able to have a custom install for the amps? or could a stealthbox have an amp built in?? or that's not the point?

 

I would DEFINITELY pay for a stealthbox that could fit a 10w6v2. Sign me up for one. If you are making them, I will pay for it right now.

What about an 8w7 though?

And yes, I would prefer passenger side, and yes, cutting 2" from the floor flap would be perfectly fine with me.

Also, I would consider a W3v3 to be fine with me. However, I would NOT buy one with a W1 or W3v2.

 

i doubt they will make a stealth box for a 10w6v2 or 8w7. Both those need more room and knowhere to hide it.

w3v3 would be great!!

 

Either:
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I agree with that. I think the most people who would get a stealthbox wouldn't want to do any cutting and keep as much useable space as possible. I think a W3 would work but a W6 would be very nice. I personally don't car about the cargo area so i did this it a 10W7

 

thats the cleanest install on the tc iv ever seen


ME LIKEY !!!!!!!!!

 

I definitely think you should look at the factory Bazooka setup that removes, not cuts or alters the side panel, which would give you plenty of room, allow for leased vehicles to be returned undamaged, and still has a flush awesome look without taking up to much room. My $.02

 

thats the jl 10w1v2 in a sealed box. the floor is about 2 inches above the stock height. BUT i still have my spare and it looks stock. it was very cheap to make the floor and i think that this may be an option that u guys can offer, a full floor. the floor alone cost about 35 for the mdf, carpet and glue. and im sure that u guys can get that stuff alot cheaper.

 

There seems to be some confusion so I will try to clear it up.

A 10W1v2 enclosure would not require cutting. The question is would anyone buy it?
A 10W3v2 and the 10Wv6 are on the table but would require cutting to get the extra depth. All the possibilites would look the same from the outside and take the same trunkspace. The question has come down to would people pay the extra for the 10W6v2? So far, it does not seem like it
An 8W7 is not on the table because it's deeper than the 10", requires a larger enclosure and we don't make Stealthbox applications for 8" drivers anymore. Would yobuy an $900 Stealthbox that has an 8" driver?
A Steathbox that repalced the entire panel is not on the table becasue it would cost a fortune at retail (over $1K).
The W3v2 is no longer manufactured to there's no chance of this Stealthbox being loaded with one.

Thank you for all your input so far.

Go Heat!

 

This may be getting to far into the weeds but why can bazooka make an entire panel replacement sub (albeit, a crappy one) with an amp and still have it retail for less than $500???
Anyway, since that is not possible then pocket book tells me to 10w1v2 but my ears say 10w3v2.
What would be the price difference for the two? I don't think many people mind cutting the panel, price is probably going to be a bigger factor. It usually is.

 

Have you seen the amp on the Bazooka? It is smaller than the palm pilot. I would not pay retail for a JL product, I know they make good products that appeal to the average consumer, but they are expensive, but behind that price you get great LOCAL dealer support. I wouldn't pay for stealth box @500, especially if it has anything less than a W6v3 in it. What I would personally like to see is a box that fit 2- 8" woofers where that stryo piece is on the passenger side. I think it is possible without lifting the floor if you use two 8w0's.

 

OK.
There is not going to be an MDF false floor model.
We will no longer manufacture a Stealthbox with an 8" or two 8".
The under carpet possibilty was eliminated.
The retail estimates and these topics were covered in my original post.

 

I thought you wanted to know what consumers wanted, not what JL wants consumers to buy?

 

fasle floor or 8w7. everything else ---> boo.

 

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