^^^ the kicker is MADE to sit flush against the bottom of a box. Honestly it required one small spacer ring, but the sub sits flush against the box. The carpet still folds over in place and locks. the sub doesnt tap the "trunk" floor until i push it to about 90% (meaning my avic d3 goes to a level of 40, and it JUST starts to tap at 36) and it does slam - running at 90% is getting a bit too loud, and I have had systems in every vehicle I own. As far as sound quality goes, I would never look back to the sq10. My main concern was the sq10 lost almost all bass response at high way speeds, windows down and sunroof back. The Kicker comp CVT will NOT disappoint you in that reguard. thats honestly the ONLY time I even get my head unit pushing past 30, aside from that its too clear and loud. I was definatly suprised at how good this 10" sounded, as my previous setup was a cerwin vega 15" in my porsche, in a HUGE box that took up the whole trunk, so I was a bit leary of the 10" series of speakers, but trust me - the kicker comp CVT is where its at for small subs (at least for me).

Just so you know, the sq10 will tap as well when pushed - eD recommended putting a small bit of sound dampening material right to the box to "lift" it just a hair.

Let us know what you end up with!

 

Wow... nice testimonial.

I've favored Kickers since the early 90's, but thought that maybe this box didn't have enough air space for the .8 cu/ft that the sub wants.

..and hey.. for $90 shipped thats a deal..


Anyone know what the air space is on this box by the way? I'm closely following this thread as I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the eD box any day now and have been wondering all these things for a while..

 

i think its somewhere around .3-.5

 

I agree with this as well.

I am running a single SQ-10 off a NINe.4 amp with the eDi 6000's v.2 components up front. Hit 128.4dB which isn't too aweful bad for that single sub.

 

I just called ED directly, and they report that it is exactly .3 cu/ft


Wow.. that's not much at all.. I don't know how anyone is getting a CVT to sound good in that little of an air space, but hey.. if it's seriously working then it works!

 

I think its .5 cubic ft. (without sub) Mine is also stuffed with 33% polyfill in the box.

 

no the sub is a .3 he just called up eD

 

Yes, as per ED directly via phone, the air space in that box without a sub is .3 cu/ft.


The RF Punch stage 3 shallow mount seems like a better choice.. Recommended airspace is .4-1.0, and a mounting depth of only 3.5"..

Or.. the Pioneer rates it at .35 min, with a mounting depth of only 3"..

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...969808,00.html

 

i really still will say that the eD box is made for an eD sub. everything else will not sound as good.

 

But honestly, how do you know that? Have you heard in person other subs in the same box? Already one person claims from first hand experience that there is a huge difference..

Also, I would trust a manufacturer like Rockford Fosgate that does their own engineering and manufacturing over a company that is just re-branding equipment from god knows where but I'm sure it's an Asian country and the first two letters are CH....





Which looks higher quality to you?

 

haha, i live 45 min away from eD and have pretty much heard every single speaker they sell, i know a lot about their company and am very close with all of their employees.

As far as the issue with them an tangband. they are currently in talks with tangband but no lawsuits have been filed from either company. like i said i have heard the sub in tonys car as well as a half of dozen other cars. its a decent sub.

they're not rebranding equipment. in fact 95% of what you see on each speaker they make is proprietary to eD including many features. i can go on and on but eD does do their own R&D, design and engineering. AND their stuff isn't made in china.

please get your facts straight before you make assumptions or arguments

looks can also be deciving. just because someone has a cast basket or has some fancy writing on the sub doesn't mean it performs better.

 

cool then.. i agree on the looks dept as it can be deceiving.

I stand corrected then.


I still think I'm going for the Punch or Pioneer sub.. I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

Neb - im telling you from personal experience, the kicker is a better sub. Anyone is more than welcome to come listen to my car. The girl is asking for options OTHER than the sq10 for the box, and if you dont have the same box, and experience with the sq10 in it, then you cant really provide any help with actuall experience.

The reason I did not buy another sq10 was pretty simple. The warranty.

They charge 1/2 the price to fix any blown sub. PLUS if you didnt save the original box (i had another "real" subwoofer box from another brand, but they said that was un-accaptable) they charge you another $25 dollars. oh and shipping. So i am back at the exact price to replace the sq10.

So I said, what the hell, lets try another brand if its almost the same price, with way more RMS wattage and a better warranty.

The kicker arrived at my door 5 or 6 days later, and I could not be happier.

 

they would have replaced it for free if it was not your fault. they have to charge shipping because why should they take the charge if your sending them a blown sub at your fault.

the 5 year warranty is undeniable and i have had ZERO complaints about it.

i'm not saying its the best speaker out there. but if you have the eD box at the pricepoint its simply the best out there. and holy crap i've heard it multiple times in multiple cars. i know what it sounds like.

 

eD is a fine company by the way, I have NO problems with anyone there, infact they have been nothing but helpful. My full install is based off mandos as far as the amps in the rear panels (1 jbl bp600.1 class D for my kicker) and (1 JBLgto75.4) for my JBL components front and back (back does NOT have a tweeter, but are run as mid-bass) the crossovers are hidden in the doors, and nothing- EXCEPT my wires under the hood to the distro block are visable. Its a pretty hard hitting totally stock looking system (which there is not one thing stock about it) powered by my avic d3.

The enclosure they made, is top notch. Very nice peice of work. I also used their spacers for my front and back speakers.

 

yeah but the kick in the pants was you HAVE to have the exact original box. Its freakin crappy cardboard, i had another sub box that fit PERFECTLY snug, and they wouldnt accept that. Its ok.. No big deal. I know your like the biggest eD supporter here.. and thats OK WITH ME I LIKE THE GUYS!! I am just saying, the comp CVT hits harder, cleaner and louder than the sq10 and I have had both. I dont have ANY "bargain cheap equipment" in my car, and I felt the sq10 was "the" weak link of my whole system .

Again, i stated IF YOU STAY with stock speakers, and use the line out converter and just add 1 amp. then all is well, it should be fine.

But start upgrading everything else, and you NEED something with more power. You can agree to disagree with me if you like.

 

Did the spacer ring come with the sub or did you have to fab it?

 

It was fabbed from 1/2" mdf. Pretty easy to do. Just trace your template on paper and get cutting. Took about 6 mins to do that part

 

do you have any pics of what your kicker looks like mounted in that box?

It may sound good in that box, but since it isn't really designed for such small spaces i think you are losing a lot of sound out of that kicker. Seems to me to be a lot of wasted wattage.

 

Gotta play with what you are given though.. sure it's not the optimal but it's the better of two evils..

I'd rather run a slightly too small airspace yet not have this giant sub box in my hatch personally..