how does jl and alpine compare to ed and mtx?

 

RIIIGHT...

 

Just wondering yanki, how hard does your downfiring box from eD thump?

 

JL Audio has a unique position in the industry. They don't deviate from their belief's when it comes to design. Solid construction and engineering, great sound quality, reliability, and excellent dealer/customer support. You could build an excellent sounding system using their equipment.

Alpine has always been regarded as one of the top mobile electronics companies through innovative solutions like Imprint and their PDx amplifiers. Again, they have top shelf dealer and customer support.

You can't go wrong with ANY of the companies we've been talking about...

 

it hits really nice. I was always sold on ported boxes since the air will move out and all that good stuff. I wanted something smaller than my ported JL 10w6 box and this did the job great. It looks very clean and sounds awsome!

 

which version did you get? dual 2 or dual 4? and how does it compare to your previous w6?

 

dual 2. I think it hits alot cleaner and smoother. Never really put the w6 to its peak and i dont plan on doing it to the 11kv.2 either. Just a nice sub overall.

 

it really depends on what amp you're going with and what load you want to present the amp with. one sub go with a dual 2 so u can have it at a 2 ohm load. 2 subs go with dual 4 so you can wire it to a 1 ohm load.

 

Robyn,

One thing to keep in mind, generally speaking we aren't selling to people who want to take their car to a shop and pay to have it worked on. Our customer base is people that want to do it themselves as I'm sure you can understand.

I've never let anyone else put anything in my car...ever. For a lot of people, the learning/doing it yourself is more of a source of pride than giving someone a bunch of money and saying here, please do this for me.

Granted, you are right, and people have definitely done amazing things with RF/Kicker/MTX but just look at what most people think of first when they hear the names, it's output, output, output. Now, granted it depends on which product from each companies line up you're looking at, but I'm finding recommended ported tuning frequencies from 35~45Hz(a whopping 68Hz on the giant Solo X box). These are the boxes most customers would use in their vehicles as they are the pre-fab enclosures. They are also the enclosures most customers would be recommended to get at a shop.

A 35hz tuning is going to play most music pretty good still and get loud, but you can't tell me a 45Hz tune is going to pass as anything remotely SQ oriented. There will be some cabin gain to help out below tuning, but that is not an SQ orientation.

I'm not trying to start something, but you should clarify that the competitors you listed are getting these awards using enclosures which were not the recommended vented box which most people would end up being talked into at a shop.

Show me someone winning SQ awards in a 45Hz tuned enclosure and I'll shut right up.

 

Alpine is what I have always used with no problems .... Its all about application anyways... how different can you make one high-end sub from the other?

 

Well, I can't speak for the 8500, but I currently have a 9500 10". I'm no audiophile, but this lil' puppy definately has some punch to it, and goes down to 29Hz (tested frequency response). Admittedly, I have it installed in a Sledgehammer enclosure. No complaints yet, have had it for a year and three months now.

 

...how? A Jackhammer is what, 22"?

 

Dammit, I keep getting the names confused, sledgehammer, I've edited the above post.

 

Haha, no problem.

 

Since when was "sealed vs. ported" the topic of this thread? There are several sealed prefabricated enclosures too, and most of them will be more SQ oriented than the ported option. All three (MTX/Kicker/RF) suggest using either sealed or ported enclosures, so I'm not sure where you're going with this. Most "good" manuals provide the pros/cons for each box type. For those that want a quick comparison and good read:

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/support_pages.php?page_id=141

My response was strictly regarding the comment that RF/MTX/Kicker "sound like crap" (Nebster) - and that eD is generally the only suggestion thrown around on this forum. Sorry, but there are several subwoofers that sound as good as, if not better than eD products (yes, I've used them, and heard them in other's cars), and are rarely mentioned here. I know of only ONE SQ competitor that's currently using eD subwoofers - and he's doing quite well.

Of course, no subwoofer will perform to it's potential if not given the proper enclosure. I've shown in other threads what it takes for the DIY'er to construct a proper enclosure (materials, bracing, etc.).

I'll stop here, and give you the option to continue this via PM.