I've been reading posts on this site for over a month, but this being my first post I'd like to say hi to all you Scion lovers. K, now my story.

So I just went to my local Scion deal in Los Angeles cuz I wanted to see one in person. Ever since I saw them online I knew I wanted to get one. I mean, according to the Scion site, they are fully loaded for around 16k, right? (I made sure to read the fine print). Well, I was dissapointed that the dealer didn't have one, and I had to put up with the guy trying to impress me with all the features which I already knew about. So I say, "Yeah, not bad for under 16k, huh?" And the guy says, "Yeah... well... uh... that's the base price. But since you're getting it fully loaded, the price is $21,000." I didn't know whether to laugh or be worried that my dream was slipping away. Please tell me they're just trying to REALLY screw me over, cuz this has been my dream car for the last month, and like I told the dork, for $21k it better come supercharged, w/ 5 lcd screens, dvd navigation and 18" spinners! (even though i think spinners look like as*) hehehe...

Has this happened to anyone else? I know a couple dealers post on here. Any of you actually selling this car at the real price?

 

it must be fully loaded.. (18", 6 CD, satellite maybe, ground effects) not the supercharger...

 

If you want all the options then yes that price is true. Go on to Scion.com and click tC. Build up your car on there and check out the price.

 

yeah, but that guy made it sound like that's the only price you can buy them at. they said they aren't selling any for around 16k.

 

No where on the website does it say FULLY LOADED 16455....that is base...base on all cars is the price they advertise...

you cant even purchase 18 w/ spinners on the site so why would you think it was fully loaded...

go back to the site and do soem more research...build your own with specs and print the sheet of then take it to the dealer...

next expect to pay destination charges and what not...

 

fully loaded meaning a lot of standards?....or fully loaded meaning 18s and 6 cd changer? well yeah....anyways....all these dealerships are marking up prices with useless options....gatta wait like the rest of us to get a base model...good luck to ya

 

franktherank, maybe that's where me and the dealer didn't connect. see, to me the base model IS fully loaded. Everything you need comes standard. So that's what I was looking for. But this guy was trying to make me believe that I can't find one for 16k. Are none of the dealers selling base models?

and by the way jdanielstC, the spinners comment was a joke.

oh, and everything i've read says this car has a camry engine. and i know toyota makes lexus, but this guy was telling me that it's not a camry engine, that it's a lexus engine. *sigh*

 

If you want one for around the base price, you are going to have to either get lucky and find one on a lot, or order one through your dealership. However that will have no options and be a M/T. If you want a stock A/T it'll cost you around 17.5 i believe.

 

fastandcurious, a 5spd is 16465, an auto is 17265, it has the engine of a 2.4 camery, rav4 and solara......no dealership maybe selling a base model on the ground but u can order a base model.....take it from me,a scion rep....and if there try'n to force u into a car u don't want then go somewhere else where they'll treat u better.......ok..good

 

thank you, Kayden :D

 

"Fully Loaded" means the car stock... tell your man that there's no "base" price since there's only one model. now, you add parts like bodykit, springs, sway bar, exhaust, and subwoofer and the price jumps to... $18500. STILL not close to 21gs... but THEN you add the Platinum Service Warranty, the window etching/alarm, blah blah and the price will THEN come out to... $19900... wtf??? WAIT, i forgot to add tax, title, and registration fees ha ha ha... after that, my total came out to... $21000 out the door. :?

i have NO idea what the ____ your dealer is smoking, if "Fully Loaded" doesn't include ALL of the ____ mentioned above, then he deserves to be drugged out to the street and shot for being a "Scion" dealer.

 

A friend of mine was looking at Chevy Colorado pickups. We walked around the lot and couldn't figure out why they were $4-5K more than they should have been. Turns out, the dealer was charging almost $4000 for crappy chrome "custom" wheels, as well as other aftermarket junk. I'm sure that's what a lot of Scion dealers are doing with the tCs. When they go aftermarket for the accessories, they can charge whatever they want. 10" Pyramid sub and 500 watt (yeah, right) off-brand amp..."Hmm, let's see, we'll charge them $2000 for that..." Wheels that you wouldn't take for free...another couple of grand. It's really easy for them to put $1000 worth of stuff in a tC and charge you $5000 for it.

I guess I'm lucky since I paid sticker plus floormats...$16610. I've probably dropped a grand on accessories since then, but they would have cost me $2-3k from the dealer.

 

the thing is... they really can't charge you more than the port prices for parts... my dealer told me that Scion didn't allowed that... where they CAN hose you is through labor prices. i got lucky and my dealer hooked me up with a great deal.

someone's gotta check with Scion on this. I'm pretty sure dealers can't charge more than what's listed.

 

2JZ, unfortunately alot of the prices on scion.com don't include installaion price, i found out the other day my customer wanted lowering springs which was $189 on scion.com but the installation price was almost $700, keep in mind like all new things like scion there are goin to be some kinks to work on, our biggest problem is trying to get the sales, parts, and service dept...on the same page....also trying to figure out the prices of accessories including installation....but ur right the prices of things getting put on at port should be the same at the dealership...if any more question from anyone let me know......kayden

 

My whole point is that Scion dealerships are allowed, and even encouraged, to fit non-Scion aftermarket parts. This is good if your dealer puts Teins, a Blitz supercharger and nice wheels on a car (like my dealer did with an xA in the showroom,) but it's bad if they put aftermarket junk on a desirable car like the tC just to wring every penny out of the buyers.

 

That is how dealers make their money... On install prices ;p

Oh btw... It can't be a Lexus engine because Lexus doesn't use the 2.4L VVT-i anyways ;p

 

Find another dealer; this one's playing you. It's not like one dealer can get you a better price than another one, so why would you put up with this crap?

 

the TRD items were supposed to be port installed from what my dealer told me which is why i got them... he then told me later on that TRD parts weren't the case, so he cut me a deal (two hours labor @ $80 for all my TRD shiznit).

in any case, what i meant is that the dealer can't say "Fully Loaded" because that means a stock car from Scion's site. If fastandcurious wants to buy a tC with no extras (like what i got), then he should be able to and not deal with greedy dealers. Scion's pure pricing was supposed to get rid of dealers like that. I got all my parts ( and that included installation price) for the price that he got quoted for "Fully Loaded", but i got what i wanted and paid for what i wanted. if anything, fastandcurious should find out what "Fully Loaded" means and not get suckered into anything he doesn't want. that dealer should NOT have said, "Yeah... well... uh... that's the base price. But since you're getting it fully loaded, the price is $21,000."

Drugged out into the street and shot, I say.

JasonH, i understand your point... since the dealers around me don't do non-Scion approved aftermarket parts i didn't get what you meant (my bad )

 

Hopefully I am wrong but my theory is that since the base tC has basically no real profit for the dealers, the dealers are getting in these fully loaded tC which of course have a good markup on the accessories. Then people are stuck paying for items they really did not want in order to get their tC NOW.....

As stated before, the best way is to go to scion.com and build YOUR car. Then you will have to wait for the car but at least you are getting what YOU want.....

Kevin

 

i think dealers are actually making more $$ on selling Scion then selling Toyota since the pure price system. well, guess no dealers will settle for only 1k profit, they want 5K or more, so you get that dealer mod crap which is way more than anyone dear to charge you if you do it on a shop.