haha... do you realize that your story is changing constantly? Now you clutched in because a car was in front of you and you might have had to brake and downshift (meaning you were expecting to lower your speed a lot)? IE you were going 60 in turn, would you downshift because you were going to slower down to 55? Probably not.

before you only "slightly" applied brakes and out of the sudden car locked...
It seems to me that you made an error, but I dont see why exactly are you still trying to blame it on Toyota...

and p.s. what they basically said is that your parking brake was overused which gives in consideration that you might have pulled it in panic trying to stop. Again, parking brake being worn would not lock your wheels.

and nevertheless, the whole complete ABS locking panic story is full of crap, as it was from the day #1

 

R u a Toyota employee...Cuz you seem to have a hard on for them...
I don't know why you are so insistent in trying to say that the accident was my fault...I know was not driving anywhere above 45 mph nor did I pull the hand brake for panic braking... I have my Network Car stats of when the accident happened. Pulling the hand brake once for panic braking will not cause the brake shoes to be worn out according to the claim of Toyota.(that's f*ckin ridiculous).
I still love my tC, in fact I am driving it now...simply because the Field Engineer found nothing wrong with my brake system...
What I am trying to point out is that the malfunction that occurred must have been caused by the way people drove my car when it was not in my possession. The parking brake was already high when I received the car, I just had no way of comparing it since it was the first tC on the lot. The dealership got the car with 46 miles on it...yet they claim that the vehicle was trailered from the port to the dealership (yeah right!)...The vehicle was only at the dealer for 3 days before I bought it. I still feel that the braking system is defective on my car...and was defective when I bought it.

 

you changed your story and added several important details here - at first you were panicking that it was ABS error and you were seriously set on telling everyone how ABS failed and locked your brakes.

That has just shown that you simply are not experienced driver no matter what. Now you are saying that someone broke your car before you got it - now that might or not might be true but your first alarming, panicking post smelled bad from start on which is why I seem harsh.

Now you are saying you were braking to slow down because of the car in front of you, and even clutched in when you lost your back end. That just seems like an clear case of driver error - it might or might not be, it is just most likely possibility.

In any case, it seems that it is obvious to you that your initial ABS story is not true.

 

spwolf, I think you sound harse because your a sad, sad little man.
But hey thats just my opinion.

 

I'm a happy big man and I'd have to agree with spwolf.

 

 

I do not know exactly what caused the rear to slide out when I braked...All I know is that the Service Advisor at the dealership told me that they are going to inspect the Brake System including ABS and the EBD and the Power Assist. So my assumption that it was the ABS but some people I have spoken to told me that it may have been the Power Assist.

All I know is that I will never go back to that dealership....b/c their service dept. is shady.

 

well my abs doesnt seem to work as i expected.. my old matrix abs worked when i needed it but my tc just locked up and resulting in a close accident... so i was just wondering if any one has any info about this or what should i do.

 

Drive better!

 

dude tell me when in a emergency case you apply your brakes hard right? well during that time your abs controler suposed to apply and release brake pressure rotating the tire. so this minimise's the chance of a fishtail or just having your tires skid out of coltrol.

and yeah i was driving good i wasnt drivng like a maniac.

i need some info if this has happened to anyone else.

 

you are 1/2 right, 1/2 wrong. ABS DOES engage when you slam on your brakes and it DOES apply and release the brakes to the tire(s) that are locking up. However, ABS DOES NOT minimize the chance of letting your car skid out of control. What you're thinking about is electronic stability control(VSC) and it only comes on the xB.

 

well tell me when you hold your brakes hard doesnt it go into a hoping action or chatter with the abs well mine hasnt done that ive gone into a fishtail cause my tires locking up...

Getting the ABS Concept
The theory behind anti-lock brakes is simple. A skidding wheel (where the tire contact patch is sliding relative to the road) has less traction than a non-skidding wheel. If you have been stuck on ice, you know that if your wheels are spinning you have no traction. This is because the contact patch is sliding relative to the ice (see Brakes: How Friction Works for more). By keeping the wheels from skidding while you slow down, anti-lock brakes benefit you in two ways: You'll stop faster, and you'll be able to steer while you stop.

In the event of a skid, anti-lock brakes rely on a computer in the car to pump the brakes more rapidly than you could pump them yourself. To make the system work, apply firm, steady pressure to the brake. When the ABS kicks in, you will feel a vibration or pulsating sensation on the brake pedal. Many drivers mistakenly believe this sensation signals a fault in the system. On the contrary, it means ABS is working properly

-howstufworks.com

and once again anyone have had this problem please help... i just want some info from other people before i go to the dealer like what has been changed for fixed or anything. please none of this just drive better stuff.

 

Wow, I had never heard of this happening on our cars before. Thanks for digging this up.

 

Why don't you start by describing EXACTLY what happened? Speed, etc.... Because in all reality, sometimes 17 year old drivers are not the best judge of how things should really work.(or how to operate a car for that matter!)

 

My brakes are perfect on my car.

 

well i first of all i really think i am a better driver than the people that live here.... idk how the 17 year olds drive there but you come here and see how the adults drive then you will see my point so stop bashing me already i came here for some help thats all.

i was coming down a hill going the 35-40 mile speed on a slight turn i went to slow down my car as i go to the stoplight then all of a sudden my tires locked up puting me into a fishtail and forcing me to hit my brakes again geting me to a screaching stop. thats what happened, the road wansnt wet nothing....idk y this happened

so stop with the bashing cause im 17. i come here for help. not crap.

 

Just ignore Scott17... He thinks because he's older he's wiser or something. He just ends up making himself sound foolish.

If I were you I'd take it to the dealer to get the braking system looked at. It could be faulty. There have been a few cases that I've read about on the forum, some have ended up in major accidents. So far they seem to be very isolated incidents, but if they build up it could end up with another recall. Some recalls are given out long after a vehicle has been in production.

 

help me understand what happened, you hit the brakes while you were in the turn, and your car started oversteering, and you hit the brakes again, and your car screeched to a stop?

I think you just oversteered and while you were fishtailing your car prolly fell below 15 mph(i think this is the speed ABS quits monitoring everything) so your tires just locked...I might be wrong though....

 

i think it monitors at all speeds...

 

Yeah, don't pay me any attention because I am foolish. Let's all listen intently to what the 20 year old "expert" has to say in this matter. I'm sure we could all learn from him!