1. If I'm wrong that's fine. I'd really like to know more from you than just "your wrong", and nothing else. So why is what I'm saying wrong (I really want to know, not trying to flame)

2. So are you saying that things like an intake, header, or exhaust will void a warranty?

3. No need for the attitude, I haven't done anything to insult you.

 

Breathin on our car the wrong way voids the warranty, I called Scion, forget where they sent me. They said if, basically, if I change anything that isn't supported by the TRD (or sold for the car from the company), or already covered by warranty. Your ____ outta luck. They said it in a nicer PR sorta way, but none the less, thats the jist...

 

Voiding warranties is a touchy subject for all parties involved. Consumers have the right to make modifications without affecting the warranty. Car makers have the right to void a warranty if they believe a modification caused the problem. It honestly comes down to who can prove what. Typically the dealer wins when this happens though since they don't need said car to get work, they can just wait it out.

As far as intake, header or exhaust voiding the warranty goes; intake and header can both definately void the warranty. I've never seen exhaust void anything except when something is physically damaged by the install.

I've personally owned a car that had an engine destroyed by a bad header install and I have a friend that had some pretty bad engine damage come about because of a intake swap.

The one thing that a lot of people forget is that the aftermarket part dosn't necesarily void the warranty but the aactual install of it can. In other words the dealer can easily claim trash got into the engine during the installation and that caused a problem.

 

I apologize. People have been arguing with me about this on other topics and forums for the last couple of weeks, so I was a little touchy.

Strictly speaking, nothing you install will instantly void the manufacturer's warranty on your vehicle. The only time it would matter whether your warranty remains in effect is after you have a problem, though, and at that point, any modifications you have made will come into play. As a practical matter, if you have made modifications that affect the way that the engine works, if you have a problem in any way related to the engine, the dealer is going to point to your modifications as a possible source. Still being practical here, you're going to have a hard time proving that your modifications did not cause the problem.

If you read the warranty itself, you'll see that there are many ways in which your warranty can be voided -- I can't remember all of them off the top of my head, but one specific way I remember is "overloading," which of course could easily refer to adding a subwoofer to the electrical system.

What's more, once something goes wrong, even IF your modification didn't cause the problem), and even IF you could prove this (and these are a couple of BIG "ifs"), you'd still have to convince the dealer. Good luck with that, if you see what I mean.

Yea, that was uncalled for. Sorry about about that. No hard feelings, I hope.

 

Ok, it all makes much much more sense now. Thanks for the good explaination. And we're all good.

 

I think I remember reading that they did the dyno w/ an open header (no exhaust).