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my fuse box is down there too, but its a little higher up than yours was
plus i dont get much rain here so i dont think i really have to worry about anything unless i plan on going swimming...
plus i dont get much rain here so i dont think i really have to worry about anything unless i plan on going swimming...
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Joined: Dec 2007
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From: LOWLOW Chicago
rrimportracer, i moved the fuse box back up and its been fine since, it just happened randomly today, it rained all day yesterday and it was really really cold today...idk.
To work right an electrical circuit is exactly that - a complete circuit. Not only is there from the power source to the device that needs power, but the return from the device back to the source. In a car that's from the plus side of the battery through the device and back to the battery via the chassis ground.
It is just as easy to have a problem with the ground as it is with the power side.
The more circuits it affects, the closer to the source the problem likely is.
You've been checking your fuses and such - check your grounds.
Most of all, good luck - that's what it will take.
It is just as easy to have a problem with the ground as it is with the power side.
The more circuits it affects, the closer to the source the problem likely is.
You've been checking your fuses and such - check your grounds.
Most of all, good luck - that's what it will take.
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Joined: Dec 2007
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From: LOWLOW Chicago
yea, ive got one ground in mind that i was going to check too.
only problem is like i said...its freezing outside and i disconnected the heat in the garage because the gas bill was $600! lol
only problem is like i said...its freezing outside and i disconnected the heat in the garage because the gas bill was $600! lol
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
rrimportracer, i moved the fuse box back up and its been fine since, it just happened randomly today, it rained all day yesterday and it was really really cold today...idk.
it did rain for like 3 weeks but i didnt have any problems
I'm gonna chime in and x2 that it's most likely a ground. The symptoms you're having are common with that of a bad ground. If it was the fuses or the power side it wouldn't work at all. If the ground isn't connected properly or is lose or something it can cause the car to freak out like you have been describing.
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Joined: Dec 2007
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From: LOWLOW Chicago
it almost seems like the trans ground.
i dont want to get to involved right now cuz i have work in a hour so im going to tear everything apart tonight and take a look.
i dont want to get to involved right now cuz i have work in a hour so im going to tear everything apart tonight and take a look.
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Joined: Dec 2007
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From: LOWLOW Chicago
i dont think so, i got dropped off and picked up at work today.
just got home and took my buddy for a ride so i could show him what was going on...the car refused to stall.
idk wtf is going on.
just got home and took my buddy for a ride so i could show him what was going on...the car refused to stall.
idk wtf is going on.
that sucks man..electrical gremlins are a b**** 1/2..they tend to do a lot of weird ish..
(kinda off topic) just got done reading 36 or so pages of a 100 page thread on some guys 20b build on rx7club.com and man it was one thing after another with electrical crap haha
anyway good luck with figuring things out
(kinda off topic) just got done reading 36 or so pages of a 100 page thread on some guys 20b build on rx7club.com and man it was one thing after another with electrical crap haha
anyway good luck with figuring things out
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Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 13,746
From: LOWLOW Chicago
found the culprit.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
do it inside the car, go through the firewall, then under the panel next to the driverside seat, then through the drivers side rear panel and keep it in the car along the floor, away from anything harmful and away from the elements.
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
found the culprit.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
Either route it through the car like Davedave sugggested, your route it through some pvc to protect it. If you leave it out in the open like that, I guarantee it will happen again.
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From: LOWLOW Chicago
Originally Posted by teamben158
Originally Posted by yellowxhoodie
found the culprit.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
the positive wire from the battery came unziptied which resulted in it resting on the axle.
it wore all the way through and messed up the wire pretty bad.
so im gonna go buy a new cable tomm and route it a diff way.
Either route it through the car like Davedave sugggested, your route it through some pvc to protect it. If you leave it out in the open like that, I guarantee it will happen again.
the wire was resting against the axle so obviously thatll do it. haha








