jjp

According to recent surveys, BMW owners far and away have the most sex of any vehicle owner.

"BMW drivers say they have sex 2.2 times on average a week, while Porsche drivers have sex 1.4 times per week. After BMW, Audi came in second with 2.1 per week; Volkswagen came third with 1.9 per week. " -ShortNews.com

Of course this is a german survey, so Scion wouldn't be on the list... but wouldn't Toyota??

pfaudi_a4

Nothing like getting off that topic in a heartbeat....Hey I drive an Audi and I have to say I get it at least 2.15 times a week..ha ha.

But to someone's point earlier...I know first hand Audi's are really expensive to maintain, and I've been told BMW's are even more expensive....plus the Z3 sucks....it's a low powered girl's car, might as well buy one of those cheap mustangs (no offense to any mustang fans)...

BizzyDaKid

Get a TC the Z3's are ugly, just my 2 cents

Reno

ditto :D

djimpak

whatever floats your boat/

couper2

Want roadster? Wanna spend around 26k?
Get a Miata or a MR2 Spyder.
Eventho Mazda is owned by ford the Miata's reliability will be as good as the m3 or better.
You can get a pretty nice brand spank'n new Miata for 26k. There is also a Mazdaspeed Miata with a turbo and suspension upgrade come'n out soon. Not sure if that has an auto option. I'd personnaly go with a MR2 Spyder. It's a toyota and bullet proof. A spank'n new Spyder is just under 26k. It has the perfect car layout - mid engine and rear wheel drive. Best part for you is that it has a 6-speed sequential manual transmission. It's a manual without a clutch. Ya shift with wheel mouned buttons. Basically it gives ya the option of be'n able to shift even if ya don't know how to use a clutch. I'm not sure if either the Miata or the Spyder will pull in the girls for the reason that you'll want. But, once ya got them over at the car say'n how much they would want one I'm sure ya could convence them to go for a ride. :D

djimpak

i'd take the mrs but then again 26k for 138hp isnt worth it.

couper2

It's real nice in the twisties.
And you could always go turbo or supercharged.
I'd like to drop in the 2zzfe from the celie gts into a spyder. :D

djimpak

i'd probably take it if it was tc'ed or had a 2zz.

btw, how did the GTS price raise from 23-24k to 26-27k so fast?

couper2

Dealers order gts's with all the added packages. The extra options shoot the price up to almost 28k. A bare bones gts + the dealers profit will run ya 23k. Suggest try'n to become buds with the fleet salesperson. They can order ya a gts how ya want it. By only getting what you want you can get the price closer to 23k, if not maybe lower. You didn't hear that from me tho.

djimpak

really? that sucks. why do they only sell the ones with added packages? what if somebody just wants a gts without the packages? they say no?

TheScionicMan

They say "We can try but it won't be easy" "It'll take 6 months to order it" "Why don't you just take this one home today".

When cars are in high demand, you can add all sorts of extras and force people to take them if they really want the car. Very un-Scionlike...

couper2

ScionicMan is right.
Course other than just squeeze'n more money out of the customer, have'n the full packages also fullfills a lot of what most customers what. A lot of gts buyers prolly do want a moonroof, HID headlights, leather trimmed seats, or the spoiler when they go to buy a celica. Annoy'n tho when ya have to buy some of those options when ya don't need them nor want them.
One can find a gt with no packages for 19k. Then ya could get the trd supercharger for 3k and ya would have a 22k celica with 175hp and 145tq which is 5hp less and 15tq more than a gts. Prolly just as quick if not quicker than a gts. Of course ya will have a 5sp tranny, not the gts's 6sp. *shrug*

djimpak

i see what you mean