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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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has anyone though of getting a conversion kit for their tc to run e-85 it allows you to switch between E-85 and regular fuel. the only place to get E-85 i know of if in NY city but its 3 dollars a gallon, and is anyone aware of how it would effect performance?
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I doubt it would be worth the $ to convert it (if you even can). That extra money would just as easily be spent on regular gas (which is just $3.75 or so here). Not that big of a difference.
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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don't. do. it.

87 octane ftw
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Waste of money unless you are going to run boost.
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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They forget to tell you about the drop in mileage with E85. I'd run it in a car made for it, but wouldn't buy a conversion. E85 is cheaper and more plentiful around here.
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:19 PM
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Ethanol is just another con being run on an unsuspecting public. The reason it's so cheap is because of the government subsidies. It may be cheaper but your gas mileage will be lower as well, causing you to use more. Ethanol based fuels are lower octane, lower volatility, and cooler burning. Performance will suffer accordingly. Avoid it.
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ehh this E85 doesn't sound so good anymore haha

thanks for the advise
Old Sep 10, 2008 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PBCsolutions
Ethanol is just another con being run on an unsuspecting public. The reason it's so cheap is because of the government subsidies. It may be cheaper but your gas mileage will be lower as well, causing you to use more. Ethanol based fuels are lower octane, lower volatility, and cooler burning. Performance will suffer accordingly. Avoid it.
Such big words...for one thing E-85 has an octane rating of 100-105.
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if your doin it to say money your better off paying for one of those used cooking oil conversion things.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:08 AM
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if your doin it to say money your better off paying for one of those used cooking oil conversion things.
Car has to be originally diesel i believe.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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isht.
forgot about that.
bio diesel...thats what its called.


well just do a diesel conversion
then a bio-diesel conversion

bahahaha.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:18 AM
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ethanol is actually added because it pollutes less and raises octane BUT!!!!! it contains less energy then gasoline. testing showed that a chevy impala that could run on both regular gas and e-85 revealed that when running on e-85, it got 25% fewer MPG then when running on conventional gasoline. so while e-85 is cheaper then gasoline, it isn't 25% cheaper then regular gas, so you actually spend more in the long run at the pump, because while it costs less to fill up your tank, you'll be filling up more often, therefore spending more!

the whole benefit behind e-85 is that it is renewable, and is supposed to reduce dependency on foreign oil except we need tractors that run on diesel made from foreign oil to harvest and ship the crops to be made into ethanol. unless we started making more biodiesel.

strangely enough, after the OPEC oil embargo of the 1970's, Brazil invested alot of money in to ethanol research and today has a fantastic infrastructure for harvesting and refining ethanol and today only depends on 15% foriegn oil! i guess that is because they have been running E-85 or alcool for YEARS!!! so they only use 15% gas in just about everything that isn't diesel powered!

so Brazil outsmarted the US, and lots of oter countries for that matter when it comes to alternative fuel development.
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:53 AM
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Sort of off subject, but I have been looking into the whole fuel thing for a while. If you get a chance, check out this link. It is amazing. This guy has actually mastered converting water to fuel. AMAZING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhyNn9i6CHU
Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:59 AM
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E-85 in a tC... gee why dont you just shove a corn cob up your butt for breakfast.... that is the worst idea since Bio Diesel..... unless you want to shell out thousands to convert and make your ride smell like 10 cases of McDonald's french fries.... then be my guest... the fine print in the E85 deal is the mileage sucks... even if youre just using commuting w/ your tC... it's not worth it.
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Originally Posted by draxcaliber
ethanol is actually added because it pollutes less and raises octane BUT!!!!! it contains less energy then gasoline. testing showed that a chevy impala that could run on both regular gas and e-85 revealed that when running on e-85, it got 25% fewer MPG then when running on conventional gasoline. so while e-85 is cheaper then gasoline, it isn't 25% cheaper then regular gas, so you actually spend more in the long run at the pump, because while it costs less to fill up your tank, you'll be filling up more often, therefore spending more!

the whole benefit behind e-85 is that it is renewable, and is supposed to reduce dependency on foreign oil except we need tractors that run on diesel made from foreign oil to harvest and ship the crops to be made into ethanol. unless we started making more biodiesel.

strangely enough, after the OPEC oil embargo of the 1970's, Brazil invested alot of money in to ethanol research and today has a fantastic infrastructure for harvesting and refining ethanol and today only depends on 15% foriegn oil! i guess that is because they have been running E-85 or alcool for YEARS!!! so they only use 15% gas in just about everything that isn't diesel powered!

so Brazil outsmarted the US, and lots of oter countries for that matter when it comes to alternative fuel development.

Old Sep 11, 2008 | 03:15 AM
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I rest my case... thank you yellow.... that was my point exactly.
Old Sep 12, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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well i'll you something. we own a 2007 dodge ram 1500 with the flex fuel and we used it ONE time and thats it. I was alot cheaper then gas but the gas mileage really does suck. We travel from Paduca Ky to Elizabethtown ky and had to fill back up and its only about 150-200 miles away. I just guess at the mileage. Never use E-85 again.
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