yeah im defently going to take every penny i can out of my car, and im gunna try to get the police report today if i can, but i like how you said that they looked at the 17 year old and gave the ticket to the statistic... the more i think about what happened the more i want to fight it, i just dont want to spend the extra money and not get any result, but i owe about 12,000$ on the loan