No Traction control..

after tonight, im unsure if i should go with the tc or not.

HEAVY Rain, and me lossing control, and my 01sunfire has it,

i wonder what its like with out it at all?

After tonight, im Deff re-thinken the car Because of that, im a good driver and i almost was in a horrible accident on 1-90 tonight.

can somone Educate me on traction control, and why the TC does not have it, and does it need it?

Still alive in NY? never thought id say this (thanks Little sunfire) haha?

Jason>

 

hmm.. keep your sunfire and go pick up chicks... laff

 

lol?

i like dick, But thanks.

 

oh and i know the sunfire is ____en ____,

i wanted something small and cheap, when i got it a year ago,

it fit the Bill. lol

im From NYC, we dont drive cars in manhattan, i moved, i needed something, i got a Wicked DEAL on it, at a Auction.

So? ya know.

not everyone has a mommy n daddy who will by them a new beemer ever other year.

some people have to make a living, and go to school Fulltime on THERE OWN. : )

 

lol I was just kidding... I dont know.. I dont have a beemer.. if I had a beemer I would be on those forums not a tC forum.

i dont know what to say about the traction control.. I drive suv's on the highway in the rain.. and I don't have a problem with it. Just be careful.

and i work on my own too

 

In normal conditions you would not need a Traction System of any kind with a car like the tC. I need to ask what was it you where doing? How fast where you going, where you turning? Did you hit the brakes a little hard & kicked in the abs? Normaly all a traction control does is reduce power / or send power to the wheel getting more grip. Some of them act like a locker on hard take offs so both wheels get power. Now this is more like a LSD that does that. So im not sure what a full traction control unit does. Might even apply the brakes for you sum but I could be wrong on that.

 

lol sorry< im a bit Crabby Today, as u can tell. lol

 

We had some pretty nasty rain here in GA from Frances and I didn't have any problems with slipping.

 

Man you are about the 4th person to say that, I would keep your sunfire and rethink your TC....

 

i was doing about 50, in a 55, Where everyone was FLYING past me, People Drive really really fast on this specific Highway, And i was going along, and all of a sudden i lost control of the car (sunfire) And for like 3 seconds i had no control of the back end. It kinda felt like it was about to spin? and somehow i got control of the car,> 2 min later it happend again, at this point i was doing like 45-40? this time the front of the car, started to point towards the tractor trailer that was passing me, and i could not see AT ALL, i have no clue how i did not go under the Tractor, God must of been with me, lol but i got control of the car again, EAch time this happend the light on my car came on and said " low TRac" so i know it was working, it was prob the only thing that saved my ___.

i hate driving in the rain, :?:

 

Hey, do you have a list of all the cars you own? And what's the **** site you own again?


Oh, wait.

 

Was the light going on while this happend? If so it might have been what caused the problem. If the computer thought it lost some traction it could have started to cut power / brake (depending on how advanced it is) & this could have shifted the cars weight making it start to head out of control. I know with a locker / LSD in a RWD in the rain you have to watch out while even making small turns or you could slide the rear end out. Now a FWD car I dont see the rear coming out from you but maybe the front starts to pull one way or another {Just guessing here so its all just what I think}. I my self have only lost control in my current car a few times. Mostly in the snow because its a 1996 car with ABS. My ABS will lock the wheels on any surface other then dry pavement. I would think the tC should be a good buy & should not be to hard to handle. The only bad thing I can think of is if you do go out of control its a 2,900Lb car so it just might keep going . Sorry for such a long post :?

 

 

Naa not long at all ,thanks,

im gonna bring it into my uncle and have him check it,

i have had some SERIOUS Break problems with the car. Esp over Bumpy roads, i have lost the breaks, before and have pulled the emergency break once, only on bumpy or wet roads, i think the breaks are pads? and this is why.

> i only saw the light, after i got control back, while it happend i was to busy looking at the REd swirl of tail lights>

Oh, and the sunfires wipers(spelling??)> are WAY TO SLOW!!

there not fast at all,

i cant wait till Feb, to get the Tc!!

 

Yeah thats a good idea to have it looked at. If the Sunfire is stock it has Disc Brakes up front & Drums in that back. So with the E Brake on you are using the rear Shoe & Drums. Yes in my car (Its a Chevy) Going over bumps scare me a little because the ABS might kick in & I dont want that going on. Thats good you at least kept your eyes on the road. I know in the xB the ETC makes a beep when it comes on to let you know whats going on. Good luck on getting a tC & take a look around the board. If you can wait for a while might want to get the 06 model when they come out. The 05s seem to be haveing a good deal of first year problems. Nothing big but might bother some to buy a new car & have it in the shop more then you can drive it.

 

i need to get it as soon as possible as my major downpayment will be my trade in, and the car allready has 56k on it, i want it to be under 70> when i trade it in,

thinken id prob get 3k for it? who knows? lol

 

Look at www.kbb.com for a idea of what a dealer might give you. Should be a link under used car somthing like "Dealer Trade In Value" or something like that. Select the year, make, model of the car. Then the trim level then what options, if its a auto or manual & milage it has. Then the condition you think it is & bam, you get a price. Now most dealers will be a little under that number so they can make more money when they sale it. I would hope you could get $3k for it. I could get about $1500 for my 1996 Corsica with 119,xxx miles.

 

Traction control? Dude! Don't be such a _____! You don't need this traction control crap. Buy the tC, you'll be fine. The next thing you're gonna want is this ABS bull____ too! Oops, I guess it comes with that one.

I think traction control would cost a bit too much considering the price point toyota was trying to achieve...

 

I drove a Neon for 2 years with no ABS or Traction Control. I was more than fine. You just have to know your car, and know exactly how it's going to behave in certain situations. Go out to an empty parking lot when it's really wet or raining. Purposly lose control of the car so you can learn how to correct it, and also what limits it has before breaking lose. I do that with every car I drive, just in case it happens when I'm not expecting it.

 

You don't need traction control for that. The only thing traction control does is it electronically limits the throttle once the computer detects slippage at the drive (in this case, the front) wheels. What you'd probably need in that case is VSC (Vehicle Skid Control). When the computer detects sliding, it activates VSC, which applies the brakes at variable amounts of pressure at the sliding wheels.

Traction control would only be good (in this case of a FWD car) if you were accelerating hard on a wet surface from a standstill; it would help you take off quicker.

What it sounds like happened here is that you hydroplaned.

I just traded away my 2000 Cavalier with the same trac system that your car has on it. The computer detected slippage at the front wheels at the loss of grip, possibly while the car had lift on it from hydroplaning?

I'm sorry for such a long post :oops: