Ouch! I got a ticket for that (although I know the light was yellow) and it was like $150, with no traffic school.

 

my understanding of the law is that the photos need to prove 3 things:

1. the vehicle is in the intersection/crosswalk
2. the light is red
3. the identity of the person driving the vehicle

I've heard that if the photo can't confirm all three of these conditions, they cannot send you a ticket.

Assuming this is in fact the case, what would happen to someone driving to a costume party where their face is completely hidden behind a mask? Anyone could have been driving that vehicle at that time and it seems unlawful to issue a moving violation against someone just because they are the owner of the vehicle (What if the car was stolen - would the owner's driving record be affected by a thief running a red light?).

 

I would very much like for you to find a legal citation for your statement.

 

if a cop wanted to he could write you for entering an intersection on yellow under

Obedience to Traffic Control Signals
21462. The driver of any vehicle, the person in charge of any animal, any pedestrian, and the motorman of any streetcar shall obey the instructions of any official traffic signal applicable to him and placed as provided by law, unless otherwise directed by a police or traffic officer or when it is necessary for the purpose of avoiding a collision or in case of other emergency, subject to the exemptions granted by Section 21055.

 

...and



Obedience by Driver to Official Traffic Control Devices
21461. (a) It is unlawful for a driver of a vehicle to fail to obey a sign or signal defined as regulatory in the federal Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices, or a Department of Transportation approved supplement to that manual of a regulatory nature erected or maintained to enhance traffic safety and operations or to indicate and carry out the provisions of this code or a local traffic ordinance or resolution adopted pursuant to a local traffic ordinance, or to fail to obey a device erected or maintained by lawful authority of a public body or official.

 

Um...no offense but a cop can not write youa ticket for entering an intersection when the light is yellow. Your qouted statements also back up my comment as it says NOTHING to this regard. Green means GO, Red means STOP, and Yellow means CAUTION. If however you are in the intersection when the light turns red, then, yes you can be ticketed. Thank you all very much and Good night!?

 

Well, I mean, think about it... it doesn't make any sense for why it'd be illegal to be in an intersection for yellow. Yellow by itself doesn't mean anything - its just a warning so that you don't actually run a red light.

If yellow meant the same thing as red, then they should just cut out the yellow, like they did in that one episode of the Simpsons - "wow, I'm getting to work really early today!"

That's how I think of it anyway.

 

^^^ Agrred. and to back up your point a photo light camera does not activate until a light is red. Which proves there is nothing illegal about entering or being inan intersection while it is yerllow as long as you are OUT of it the moment it hits red.

 

And to think all those morons that have honked at me in the past for not crossing the intersection while the light was green. haha

 

If you can look up and see the light turn red, you shouldn't have gone and you could be ticketed for it

 

the definition of a yellow light isnt caution the yellow light means for you to stop unless other wise unsafe to do so nobody uses it like that but thats what it is a cop can ticket you for going through a yellow light so you wouldnt catch the red light

 

My original question was how the camera is activated? Does it take a picture for every red light cycle, or only when sensors are activated as someone enters the intersection on red? No one entered on red. Myself, an F-150, and a grocery truck all suddenly braked and were stuck right before we made it through because of traffic ahead.

 

All I know now is that I'm protected from those evil cameras. Cameras are taking over the world!

 

when these cameras fire proves nothing other than the fact that they were time to fire when the light turns red.

 

according to the florida statutes and constitution,
316.075 (b)
(b) Steady yellow indication.
1. Vehicular traffic facing a steady yellow signal is thereby warned that the related green movement is being terminated or that a red indication will be exhibited immediately thereafter when vehicular traffic shall not enter the intersection.

 

It seems the wording of that statement shows that traffic shall not enter with the red is indicated, rather than yellow.

 

^^^ No no no, listen. I didn't say they fire when the light turns red. I said they activate. Red light sensors are activated after the light for your direction turns red. If you are in the intersection ANYWHERE it will active the sensor do to unauthorized movement for yor direction.
Side note, if turning right, the camera does not activate for that lane so yes you can turn right on red unless it is posted otherwise.

 

Bottom line is you have control of your car and your actions.
You know that the red light is going to follow the yellow light. If you should choose to enter the intersection on a yellow, be
prepared to face the consequences if you should get a ticket
because the light has turned red. You know that this is the
shady unclear borderline between whether or not the camera
will take a picture.
I personally don't like the feeling of second guessing and
torturing myself wondering if my picture had been taken. So I
choose to stop at the line on a yellow.

 

and that's exactly why the person with the best lawyer wins

 

I think that was very well put. I'm coming off as a know-it-all, holier than thou sort, and I really don't mean to. Scionetics has very well captured my intent: "if you choose to enter the intersection on yellow, be prepared to face the consequences"

thank you, and i will stop before i start quoting case law