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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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the only time i REALLY wish the tc had LSD. its not terrible in the snow, but i had some nervous commutes last year. i think the fact that i'm lowered doesn't help either. but the traction is terrible with stock wheel/tires and the open diff.

i've done at least a couple 180's after breaking concentration for a split second.

anyone have any suggestions on how to improve snow performance of the tc... ??

whats the best tire size for winter tires to be mounted on stock wheels w/ lowered suspension??
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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I just put on Bridgestone Blizzaks and the difference is amazing. No longer does driving in the snow bother me...
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Hmm.. never drove in the snow.. but man we have some brutal Sand that u can get stuck in easy
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
the only time i REALLY wish the tc had LSD....but the traction is terrible with stock wheel/tires and the open diff.
The problems you describe come from tires, not the open diff.

180's do not a LSD prevent....
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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man, i got stuck on GRASS once! lol... it was a little hill, and the chassis was being pushed up by the grass hill, and the front wheels were hanging off the grass onto a sidewalk. on wheel was fully contacting (d/s), but the p/s wheel was off the ground a bit....it just spun like crazy every time i hit the gas, while the other wheel didn't move. :D

u can imagine what effect that would have in snow, i'm sure.
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Unless your stuck, an LSD will do very little. If you have one tire off the ground (like your example) LSD is super. How often does this happen to you?

Again, if you want to maintain traction on a normal, level road that is snowy, you need snow tires, not a LSD
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by monkeysauce
Unless your stuck, an LSD will do very little. If you have one tire off the ground (like your example) LSD is super. How often does this happen to you?

Again, if you want to maintain traction on a normal, level road that is snowy, you need snow tires, not a LSD
COMPLETELY agree with the first part of your post.

however, LSD helps when one wheel is slipping, not only when its off the ground. THus, it would help quite a bit in snow/rain....mostly while turning or going up hill.
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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tCs suck in the snow. totaled my due to it.

GL
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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Before I bought the tC as a winter car, I drove a Corvette as a winter car in Illinois (my good weather car was a Viper). after 4 winters in the Vette, the tC feels like an all-wheel drive SUV to me!!!! I thought it was great in the 5 inches of snow today.
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by petegtsv10
Before I bought the tC as a winter car, I drove a Corvette as a winter car in Illinois (my good weather car was a Viper). after 4 winters in the Vette, the tC feels like an all-wheel drive SUV to me!!!! I thought it was great in the 5 inches of snow today.
Umm...your either full of ____ or a moron - Your pick
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fdkumro
Originally Posted by petegtsv10
Before I bought the tC as a winter car, I drove a Corvette as a winter car in Illinois (my good weather car was a Viper). after 4 winters in the Vette, the tC feels like an all-wheel drive SUV to me!!!! I thought it was great in the 5 inches of snow today.
Umm...your either full of poop or a moron - Your pick
Would agree i think both
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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hmmm.. a vette in the snow isnt the best choice out there .. uh.. at all..
I took my 944 out once, and made it ... hmm, about 3/10'ths of a mile before spinning it completly around twice.. and as soon as I got turned around facing my house (well.. at the time parents house) I parked it and got my other car.. this was with about.. oh 1/2" of soft snow on the road.. RWD sucks for snow when you have big fat sport tires.

Couldnt tell ya how the tC does either, nor will I find out (atleast in my tC).
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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With good tires and traction control/abs/stability control, the Vette never got stuck. Its all a matter of learning how to drive in the snow. My son drove his Vette all winter for 3 winters, too. He's 21 now and says the winters in his Vette made him a much more competent driver in the dry, wet and on the track. I'm a regular on 3 other forums and this is the first time I've had my credibility or intelligence quetioned. Its all about leaning how to drive/anticipate.........I didn't say it was easy, just doable.
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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i agree with alot of the posters here that tires make a BIG DIFFERANCE. however, the best tires in the world are not going to make up for inexperience.

when i was 16 i used to take my car to empty parking lots on snowy days and familiarize myself with the cars limits(and my own). keep in mind that this was in an EMPTY PARKING lot with no cars, light posts, or concrete islands.

some may say i was being irresposible but I feel its more irresponsible to not become comfortable with your limits and the limits of the car. think about about being in a slide for your first time ever and how you would handle yourself. then think about how you would feel after practicing the "what ifs". I feel this has made me a better and safer driver.

I do agree that the stock tires suck but like I said earlier the best tires in the world arent going to compensate for inexperience
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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just get some winter tires
I just got my micheline alpine A3 (sp)
and im dropped on trd springs
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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my grey tC could be used as a flippin snow plow
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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anyone have studded snows? i wonder how much better they are than regular snows
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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^^^a lot, i'm sure.

correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't a big factor in tires snow performance the profile?? Ie. i think our low profile tires suck in snow for the exact reason they are good on pavement, the responsiveness. on dry pavement, u turn the wheels a bit, and they bite the asphalt....on snow, u turn the wheels a bit and the get loose.

would a higher profile (non snow/winter) tire be significantly better in the snow than our low profile all seasons?
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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but then u'd have to worry bout rubbing.
depending on yr drop...
I put a 215/45/17 (like stock size) snow tires on my car now a 55 series would rub
Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tC4italy
but then u'd have to worry bout rubbing.
depending on yr drop...
I put a 215/45/17 (like stock size) snow tires on my car now a 55 series would rub
yeah i know, i had 225/45/17 kdw's on this summer and rubbed a tiny bit a full wheel lock while turning, so i'd imagine much more than that would rub a lot.

i was think more along the lines of hooking up some 16s with some 215/55/16s or something like that. isn't that what a lot of people do for snow/winter wheels, use a -1 wheel size and higher profile tire?

maybe the rounder shoulders on higher profile tires don't bit into the snow as much as the angular shoulders on low pro tires....



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