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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Agree.. The dealer prices for options are INSANE thats why you don't get any... Don't fall in the trap of the dealers ordering a car loaded to force you to buy it loaded. If you need to compromise on maybe purchasing the overpriced mats that is onw thing bu all other options can be gotten aftermarket for 1/2 or less of the price.

Besides.. The TC comes FULLY LOADED.. The options you can add aren't even options on other cars.. Decals, neon lights, chrome pedals... all useless....

After Taxes the car is going to cost between 18-19k a similar spec Mazda 3 before taxes was around 20k..


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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Well, it is not only the price on the options. There is some dealers charging close to $500 in documentation fees here in the west coast of florida, and well over $800 in doc. fees in some dealers in miami. With those fees the tc without options is well over the $17k (for the 5 spd.) and over $18k (for the auto) not including tax.
I saw this when searching the inventory of this dealers on their websites.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Stop bashing the Mazda3. It has been getting fantastic reviews.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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Im not bashing it, but put it this way: the focus gets great reviews as well- and mine was falling apart.--- buyer beware--
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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I was considering the Mazda3 also, since I haev a friend that works for Ford and I could probably get a decent discount on the car.....but list price on one loaded was around $19,000 or more....$21,000 if I wanted a Navigation unit.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 05:11 PM
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Taxes are calculated based on where you register your car.
For instance, I bought my car in CA and registered in NV. If I opted to not pay the dealership the taxes, I would have had to pay the NV DMV the taxes when I registered the car. Instead, I payed them at the dealership in the finance and payed $40 more than I would have had to if I bought the car in NV.

Otherwise, everyone would buy their cars in OR and drive them home tax free.
You don't think Uncle Sam is that stupid do you?

Also, when you buy a car via a 'private seller', you pay the tax to the DMV. Your lender will usually pay them and just finance the tax just like it's done at the dealership.

Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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The mazda 3 just doesn't look as good as the tC imo.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by goofygrin
Here's my thought on dealer add ons...

They put them on... if they want to sell the car they can take them right back off.

The *only* ones that I would even consider would be CAI, TRD springs and TRD exhaust... but I still feel ripped off buying/having them install it (I'm fairly handy mechanically).

I even have the dealers take their badging off the cars I buy. I didn't pay them to advertise for them.
Actually, that was your badge the dealer removed, you paid for that in the processing fee.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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The 3 is a good car, Might have gotten one if they were a two door instead of a four door. They handel great, are are VERY fun to drive. It'll be very intersting to see what Mazda Speed does when they release the turbocharged 3.

However the Tc was the right car for me. I loved the duel sunroofs, 3 door hatch look, and the price was about 4K less then the 3 I was looking at. Of course that 3 had HID headlights, stereo controls on the stearing wheel, and a manutronic transmittion.

Like everything I think it is a sign of taste.

& who cares that they are owned by ford? Do we say dodge has any better quality cause they are now owned by germans? & what about those germans owning a large part of mitsubishi? I don't see people trashing Mitsubish cause they used to be owned (in part) by an americian company.

If the car is a good car I'll drive it.... I'd be more worried about the cars being assembled here in the us than a japanese car being built over there by a cmpany partially owned by ford.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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If any dealers are "gouging" customers they should be reported to Toyota Motor Sales USA immediately.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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I was considering the Mazda3 also, since I haev a friend that works for Ford and I could probably get a decent discount on the car.....but list price on one loaded was around $19,000 or more....$21,000 if I wanted a Navigation unit.
One of the large dealers in Cincy has a ton of 3's in stock, and they're offering $2k off MSRP. That pretty much brings it in line with the tC. Most on Edmunds are reporting around $300-500 over invoice, making it a little more than the tC. Just FYI.
Old Jun 24, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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the dealers that are adding $3 to 4k worth of stuff on scions will eventually backfire on them. its okay if you do it to your demonstrator, but on actual inventory is down right stupid. they're missing the whole point of scion.

we added the trd exhaust and lip spoiler on our tC and we'll lower it with the trd springs next week, but you won't see us do that to the tC that are coming in.
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