GenXreject

Well what about the tC Eng.? will that drop in? (newbie question) what the eng designation (name) in the xA/xB? and what's the tC eng from?

Djuan

its from Camry, so I dont think it will fit without some severe surgery... and maybe not even with that... probably better go with celica engine

Milhamscion

better yet, try a hemi!!!!

eric_m

i don't think the advantages of an engine with a hemispherical combustion chamber will be as obvious in an engine small enough to fit in the scions engine bay.

the 1.8L celica/matrix/elise engine has around 180hp and will fit better than the 150hp 2.4l camry engine. both are normally aspirated.

showpaojoe

does the ecu monitor the the transmission because you'd have to swap that too right? for it to be street legal and pass. thaz my question for a swap right now

Djuan

so what exactly would you have to swap ?
Lets say 1.8 Celica Engine
Transmission
motor mounts
probably some kind of work for the weight of the engine
cut away some of the engine compartment...
what a mess, someone do it !

kwicslvr

Weight and cutting the engine. Hmmm... is this a totally different engine or did they just retool the internals to get .3 more liters out of it and raise the compression for more hp. It could very well be the same dimensions on the outside and just a different internal configuration. Even then, size wise a 1.5L engine is going to be about the same size as a 1.8L engine externally I would think. .3 L is not that much at all spread out over 4 cylinders. If the above is true then it would weigh essentially the same if not less for the larger displacement engine. Anybody have any insight on these points.

ncscion

so could you use a celica head on the xb engine and bore the xb engine to get the xtra .3L?

GenXreject

I'm new to Toyota, what are all the diff. eng. designations?

What's the echo motor called?
What's the celica motor called?
What's the camry motor called?

What's the size of the celica motor?

Celica motor going to be in Elise?

1NZFE

Echo/ xA(iST)/ xB (bB): 1NZ-FE
Current Celica GT: 1ZZ-FE(?)
Current Celica GTS: 2ZZ-FE
late 03-current Camry/2004 Solara 4cyl: 2AZ-FE

Both Celica motors are 1.8L. And yes, Lotus begged Toyota to use the GTS engine (2ZZ-FE) including it's transmission for the Elise.

scibrew

sweeet!

GenXreject

I would love to see the first person try to put a Hemi in a Scion. :twisted: You could put it where the back seat is. lol

Anyway, I was wondering, there is a Blitz S/C available for the xA/xB, the factory offers one too right? Do they prepare the engine for S/C or just take a N/A engine and bolt it on? How much boost can the 1NZ-FE handle? (1nz-fe is right isn't it? I'm a newb.) Short of ordering custom parts, what is available off the shelf for performance?

Most importantly, what would you do to your Scion? keep it N/A? Supercharge? Intake/Header/Exhaust mods? Post your thoughts.

How do you change the stock ECU settings? Do you need chip? Flash programme? Piggy-back controllers? How 'tunable' will Toyota make these cars.

How long will the scions be here? is this like a one time offering or are they going to be around for 20 yrs like the civic. ( I hope so)

WHY WONT THEY BE SOLD IN CANADA!!!!

When GM released the Ecotec engine the were the first and largest makers of aftermarket products for it. Same thing with Mopar and the SRT-4 engine. Will TRD do the same thing? If they do, will they give thought to carrying body kits/accessories as well or will they leave that to private companies?

Where do you want Toyota and TRD to take the Scions?