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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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just wondering, im debating waiting for the trd supercharger for the tC, or looking into the turbo kit by knowledge performance which is just down the street from me
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=24543

just wanted your opinions on these 2 and which you all think would put out more power.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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The turbo kit will no doubt put out more power. However, it will not be warranted and will probably cost just as much as the S/C.

This is all irrelevant until the systems are available and can be compared.
Old Aug 27, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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The turbo kit will no doubt put out more power. However, it will not be warranted and will probably cost just as much as the S/C.

This is all irrelevant until the systems are available and can be compared.
yep!
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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I don't think TRD SC can crank it more to 400whp, most likely TRD SC will boost up to 200. if with 3" piping and bigger pully, maybe 250, no way can be 400whp. Unless you doing more MOD to the engine.

BTW: I don't think Toyota will warranty the SC, just like WRX and Evo 8 problem.
As many TRD parts are OFF-ROAD use only, just like TRD exhust no power gain.
(that still give you warranty)

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i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
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Originally Posted by calvinwch
I don't think TRD SC can crank it more to 400whp, most likely TRD SC will boost up to 200. if with 3" piping and bigger pully, maybe 250, no way can be 400whp. Unless you doing more MOD to the engine.

BTW: I don't think Toyota will warranty the SC, just like WRX and Evo 8 problem.
As many TRD parts are OFF-ROAD use only, just like TRD exhust no power gain.
(that still give you warranty)

Originally Posted by t6c9
i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
I had a TRD supercharger on my previous car (1.8L 1ZZ Matrix) - TRD claimed 165hp, and the SC actually put out 165whp. It was warrantied up to the limit of drivetrain warranty (5/60) or up to your extended warranty (7/100) whichever you had. And TRD is usually very fast with shipping replacement parts, so it will be a smarter option than a turbo kit backed by a 5-person shop that might go out of business in 2 weeks...
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Well, if something wrong with SC install. That is not SC, most time is your tranny. Toyota will not warranty any parts if you have SC install, as always you want play you will paid.

ya TRD may warranty they parts, but what is that going to cost? some SC parts maybe only like 2-300 bucks only, your tranny will cost you 4G or more.

So, if you want play then play hard. They will not have warranty anyway, but aleast you have fun for more power.

sure you can crank the SC and MOD the engine, make it 400. With SC you will spend more then Turbo setup for going 400.



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I don't think TRD SC can crank it more to 400whp, most likely TRD SC will boost up to 200. if with 3" piping and bigger pully, maybe 250, no way can be 400whp. Unless you doing more MOD to the engine.

BTW: I don't think Toyota will warranty the SC, just like WRX and Evo 8 problem.
As many TRD parts are OFF-ROAD use only, just like TRD exhust no power gain.
(that still give you warranty)

Originally Posted by t6c9
i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
I had a TRD supercharger on my previous car (1.8L 1ZZ Matrix) - TRD claimed 165hp, and the SC actually put out 165whp. It was warrantied up to the limit of drivetrain warranty (5/60) or up to your extended warranty (7/100) whichever you had. And TRD is usually very fast with shipping replacement parts, so it will be a smarter option than a turbo kit backed by a 5-person shop that might go out of business in 2 weeks...
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by t6c9
i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
You would need to have that s/c pounding out a lot of boost. Stock 2.4L = 160HP@crank. Toyota/scion would not give you a warrenty if you increased your power out put by 150%. Also do they even make TB Spacers for Toyota, oh & aint the TB built onto the s/c? Where would you also get these TRD Internals?
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Agree, you want to play you got to pay. No warranty anyway, why not go Turbo if you want more Power.

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Originally Posted by t6c9
i agree 100% about the warrenty... you could always upgrade the pulley and the fuel system... put a front mount on it somehow, i know it's possible... 3 inch downpipe... header exhaust.. throttlebody... throttlebody spacer.... intake.... exhaust... then go all TRD internals (pistons, rods, crank, so on) you'd deffiantely hav close to if not more than 400hp and most likely at the wheels
You would need to have that s/c pounding out a lot of boost. Stock 2.4L = 160HP@crank. Toyota/scion would not give you a warrenty if you increased your power out put by 150%. Also do they even make TB Spacers for Toyota, oh & aint the TB built onto the s/c? Where would you also get these TRD Internals?
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Originally Posted by calvinwch
Well, if something wrong with SC install. That is not SC, most time is your tranny. Toyota will not warranty any parts if you have SC install, as always you want play you will paid.

ya TRD may warranty they parts, but what is that going to cost? some SC parts maybe only like 2-300 bucks only, your tranny will cost you 4G or more.

So, if you want play then play hard. They will not have warranty anyway, but aleast you have fun for more power.
Huh? All other vehicle warranties still apply... Who told you the lie that tranny is not covered if you have TRD SC? I never had a single problem with other engine parts being warrantied after I had the SC installed - had the oxygen sensors replaced, catalytic converters, couple other things - the cat problems were caused by me sticking with TRD CAI after the SC install - CAI helped lean out the A/F ratio and burned out the cat. So it was a direct fault of 2 aftermarket parts - CAI and 5th injector/ECU piggyback from SC setup. The dealership pointed out that I should put the stock airbox back on, but still replaced my cats under warranty - and it's not a $10 part - it's a $900 midpipe...
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Not if you go high boost, no body warranty high boost setup car. We were talk about 300+WHP here, not stock SC setup.


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Well, if something wrong with SC install. That is not SC, most time is your tranny. Toyota will not warranty any parts if you have SC install, as always you want play you will paid.

ya TRD may warranty they parts, but what is that going to cost? some SC parts maybe only like 2-300 bucks only, your tranny will cost you 4G or more.

So, if you want play then play hard. They will not have warranty anyway, but aleast you have fun for more power.
Huh? All other vehicle warranties still apply... Who told you the lie that tranny is not covered if you have TRD SC? I never had a single problem with other engine parts being warrantied after I had the SC installed - had the oxygen sensors replaced, catalytic converters, couple other things - the cat problems were caused by me sticking with TRD CAI after the SC install - CAI helped lean out the A/F ratio and burned out the cat. So it was a direct fault of 2 aftermarket parts - CAI and 5th injector/ECU piggyback from SC setup. The dealership pointed out that I should put the stock airbox back on, but still replaced my cats under warranty - and it's not a $10 part - it's a $900 midpipe...
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Originally Posted by calvinwch
Not if you go high boost, no body warranty high boost setup car. We were talk about 300+WHP here, not stock SC setup.
I hope nobody in their right mind will warranty 300+whp setup, or they will be in the business off giving away free money...
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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See. that is what we talk about.
But still, not sure about the TRD SC setup. Any one talk to the Toyota yet? I hear some YES and some NO.



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Originally Posted by calvinwch
Not if you go high boost, no body warranty high boost setup car. We were talk about 300+WHP here, not stock SC setup.
I hope nobody in their right mind will warranty 300+whp setup, or they will be in the business off giving away free money...
Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by calvinwch
See. that is what we talk about.
But still, not sure about the TRD SC setup. Any one talk to the Toyota yet? I hear some YES and some NO.



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Originally Posted by calvinwch
Not if you go high boost, no body warranty high boost setup car. We were talk about 300+WHP here, not stock SC setup.
I hope nobody in their right mind will warranty 300+whp setup, or they will be in the business off giving away free money...
If I recall from some post some one stated that stage 1 would be covered but stage 2 & 3 would not be. At this point though I think its just all talk until it comes out.
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