What is the weight of the Tc?
Originally Posted by cowboy
Originally Posted by SC Scion tC
I don't care. I don't go to other boards and extoll the virtues of Toyota. And driving a FWD turbo is like masturbating...It might be fun, until you release that you're just f___ing yourself. I don't see how any enthusiast can be impressed by a FWD turbo churning out tons of HP. There's a reason why Ferrari, Porsche, and BMW don't do FWD.
... and i'd agree with you about the FWD a couple of years ago; however after the mini cooper S (which i believe ran one of -if not THE- quickest slalom times ever) and the SRT-4, there is a good group of people that would include them as a "sport car" not just "sporty".
so for now we'll have to agree to disagree... nothing wrong with that.
It's the fact that manufactures are finally realizing that there are a significant group of consumers that actually like to DRIVE their cars vs. being DRIVEN by their cars, that brings us to enjoy and intelligently debate their virtues. Prime example $30k Mitsu's and Subaru's (!) that SMOKE $200k plus penises on wheels. We have CHOICES now, ladies & gents...that in and of itself, is amazing.
And you can keep your Ferraris...Take that $275 K, and give me an Evo, an FX45, a TcSc, a healthy Down Payment on a condo, and I still have enough scratch left to take a year off and spend it partying my a$$ off while spending days tuning ALL my cars to run rings around most anything on the street. Gotta LOVE that.
Originally Posted by ConnerrySE01
Originally Posted by cowboy
Originally Posted by SC Scion tC
I don't care. I don't go to other boards and extoll the virtues of Toyota. And driving a FWD turbo is like masturbating...It might be fun, until you release that you're just f___ing yourself. I don't see how any enthusiast can be impressed by a FWD turbo churning out tons of HP. There's a reason why Ferrari, Porsche, and BMW don't do FWD.
... and i'd agree with you about the FWD a couple of years ago; however after the mini cooper S (which i believe ran one of -if not THE- quickest slalom times ever) and the SRT-4, there is a good group of people that would include them as a "sport car" not just "sporty".
so for now we'll have to agree to disagree... nothing wrong with that.
It's the fact that manufactures are finally realizing that there are a significant group of consumers that actually like to DRIVE their cars vs. being DRIVEN by their cars, that brings us to enjoy and intelligently debate their virtues. Prime example $30k Mitsu's and Subaru's (!) that SMOKE $200k plus penises on wheels. We have CHOICES now, ladies & gents...that in and of itself, is amazing.
And you can keep your Ferraris...Take that $275 K, and give me an Evo, an FX45, a TcSc, a healthy Down Payment on a condo, and I still have enough scratch left to take a year off and spend it partying my a$$ off while spending days tuning ALL my cars to run rings around most anything on the street. Gotta LOVE that.
Originally Posted by Butters
wait for the revival of the supra.
and to join your convo here... I'd like to say that right now I drive a 98 Corolla and comparing my Coroll to a tC... wow...what a upgrade that will be... so unline cowboy, I dont want an ugly STI, or a SRT4... I want a tC... 200hp w/ SC is MORE than enough for me... that's it...
-Emo
Originally Posted by ikonXone
Originally Posted by jackmott
And what does the 160hp scion tc offer over the 220 (actually its more like 260-280hp) of the neon srt4?
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