WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
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WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
From Inside Line, 8/11/05:
Article here: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=106827
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TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
WHISPERS: Toyota Planning New 250-hp Scion tC
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
Date Posted 08-11-2005
TOKYO — The grapevine in Japan is whispering about a hot, new 250-horsepower pure sport coupe from Toyota, coming next year, which would also double as a new Celica in Japan.
Japan's moles say they've uncovered secret plans for a new pure sport coupe from Toyota, apparently based around the Scion tC. The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
Toyota is aiming at Honda's stellar Integra Type R (the more exotic, faster version of America's Acura RSX). And the idea would also be to inject some extra speed and enthusiast muscle into the tC.
America will soon bid farewell to the Celica, so this new 250-hp sport coupe would be a welcome replacement. Across in Japan, the talk is Toyota would rebadge it as the eighth-generation Celica.
While the Celica as we know it is 1.8-liter, the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
What this means to you: Biggest problem with Scion? No power. Thus, this super tC sounds super-cool; let's hope it makes it into the showrooms here.
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I dowbt its the super charger, as they seem to be describing a new car altogether,
can our tC really be described as a pure sport coupe? maybe they are redesigning it?
but if it is the supercharger then, bring it on!
can our tC really be described as a pure sport coupe? maybe they are redesigning it?
but if it is the supercharger then, bring it on!
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Very interesting...It's pure speculation, but my thoughts are niether Toyota or Honda have never released a massed produced N/A four cylinder car with that much power. I'm thinking that it's going to be either a supercharged or turbocharged car, but you can't really tell by the article. All I can assume is that is a sports tuned version of the TC engine.
2AZ-FE (Scion TC)
2 = 2nd gen
A = engine family
Z = previosly produced
F = economy
E = electronc fuel injection
2AZ-GE (new code)
2 = 2nd gen
A = engine family
Z = previosly produced
G = performance
E = electronic fuel injection
The only difference is the G which means it will have twin cams with a narow valve angle. If it was an FI car there would be a T(turbo) or Z(supercharged) in between the G & E.
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hmm, but does it make 250 hp at 8k rpm or something insane like that? seeing how it is rumoured to be 2.0 liter vs 2.4 they probably just destroked it to handle a higher redline. if so, then not really that great, whoopee kinda like celica gt vs gts. gotta drive it like you stole it otherwise not much difference in 'everyday' driving.
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probably a new "reintroduced toyota supra"? Something along lines of tC with less fat? Who knows. Due in 2006? So should be on sale in 2007. Doubt 250hp. <--optioned tc with super or turbo. Deiniteately. Which reminds me. Dam it. Where are the turbos for our cars?
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Originally Posted by yesti
hmm, but does it make 250 hp at 8k rpm or something insane like that? seeing how it is rumoured to be 2.0 liter vs 2.4 they probably just destroked it to handle a higher redline. if so, then not really that great, whoopee kinda like celica gt vs gts. gotta drive it like you stole it otherwise not much difference in 'everyday' driving.
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What's wrong with reving up to 8k rpms. Even if you have to rev up that high for max power there should still be enough down low to make it work. Now, considering it's going to be sporting a 2.4L engine it probably won't rev that high because of the higher displacement. Who knows? It's all speculation right now.
Imagine 2AZ-GTE
Imagine 2AZ-GTE
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i posted a couple months back an article on the new '07 Camry and the speculated upgraded powerplants it would use.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ighlight=camry
coincidence?...
raúl...
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ighlight=camry
coincidence?...
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The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
Why do they talk about 2 motors?
the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
Why do they talk about 2 motors?
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Originally Posted by scrap
The unnamed model, due in 2006, has 2.4-liter power, like the tC, yet is good for a reputed 250 horsepower.
the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
Why do they talk about 2 motors?
the story goes that this new model would jump up to a special high-performance 2.0-liter motor, which may be called 2AZ-GE.
Why do they talk about 2 motors?
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Originally Posted by SHOEBOxB
Could it be the new Supra? I doubt it would only be 250HP though.
This would be like the new supra just like the RX8 was percieved to be the new RX7.
If they did make this, then the price jumps to what about 25g's atleast. I guess they will challenge the old srt4 for cheap performance car title. Although the new srt4 will be around 300hp capability seeing that they will share the same motor of the EVO X. Oh well, hopefully Toyota comes out with this supposed new tC soon.
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Originally Posted by yesti
hmm, but does it make 250 hp at 8k rpm or something insane like that? seeing how it is rumoured to be 2.0 liter vs 2.4 they probably just destroked it to handle a higher redline. if so, then not really that great, whoopee kinda like celica gt vs gts. gotta drive it like you stole it otherwise not much difference in 'everyday' driving.
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Originally Posted by SHOEBOxB
Could it be the new Supra? I doubt it would only be 250HP though.
This would be like the new supra just like the RX8 was percieved to be the new RX7.
If they did make this, then the price jumps to what about 25g's atleast. I guess they will challenge the old srt4 for cheap performance car title. Although the new srt4 will be around 300hp capability seeing that they will share the same motor of the EVO X. Oh well, hopefully Toyota comes out with this supposed new tC soon.
SRT-4 won't have the Evolution engine in it. Sorry, it's mitsubishi only there's a reason why they don't put that engine in other cars. Hell, the evo 9 isnt even out yet here.
The SRT 4 will retain it's 2.4 turbo. And will have a new body style and everything next year.
Anyways, a 250hp tc would be cool, but pricey. If it doesnt have a LSD and a 6 speed then it's not worth it in my opinion. Especially because it will have to be over 23k considering the supercharger gives 200hp an dputs the price at 20k.
I doubt anything like this will be released though. And if it is it will be the supercharger+mad mods or something. I'd rather them make it like all wheel drive or something different before they give it 250 horses. Better yet, come out with a 4th Scion model that has this power, make it smaller than the TC, 2 seats, RWD. Make it a solstice contender.