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why does xB have traction and vsc but the tC doesn't?

Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMbB
Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
thats is one of the most childish comments ive ever heard. u sound like your in second grade.
I thought it was kinda funny actually. You need a sense of humor. Lighten up a lil. Besides, "he started it". (lol, hows that for second grade?)
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
It all depends on your point of veiw, I'm proud that its on the echo platform. At least it's not on a platform made for old peoples cars. (Camry) That means the tC is basically a Buick underneath JK
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by Captain tC
Originally Posted by xmetalx
first off the TC is a friggen camry in disguise.
Better to be a camry in disguise than an echo in disquise.
It all depends on your point of veiw, I'm proud that its on the echo platform. At least it's not on a platform made for old peoples cars. (Camry) That means the tC is basically a Buick underneath JK
Well since the camry isn't based off of the avensis and the tc is.. Why do you people even post stuff like that? again: THE ONLY THING THE tC SHARES WITH THE CAMRY IS PROBABLY TRANSMISSION AND ENGINE.
Old Mar 13, 2005 | 11:44 PM
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my box handles great with and with out trac on....but i noticed that when it is on and i wanna take off like a hat outta hell at a red light it doesn't really peel out......now i my opinion that is a good thing TOO KEEP YOUR TRACTION>>> plus my box doesn't feel top heavy in hard corners..
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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people just dont get along on this forum.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Why all the confusion about "PLATFORM Sharing"??? Platform has almost nothing to do with sheetmetal. Most all FWD vehicles have had unibody construction since the 70's which is about the time that platform sharing got started.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboMe
people just dont get along on this forum.
"MOST" of us get along fine!!! The problems start when opinions are stated as facts and it just snowballs from there. Please, if you don't know something for sure, keep it to yourself or do the reasearch then post the results of the factual info.
This bickering about dumbsh!+ is getting very old
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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gotcha!
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 01:32 AM
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I feel like I'm still in high school listening to the kid's that were never payed attention to....
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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i could really go for some traction control in my tC in the rain. i can't go over 3,000rpms in first or 2nd gear. i can barely take off with the stock tires when it's really pouring.
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Default Re: why does xB have traction and vsc but the tC doesn't?

Originally Posted by ska1188511
Why do you want trac or VSC on a sports car?
Ok, so it's not exactly a Camry, but..... Sports car?
It's "sporty" at best!


Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
...seems to me like the tC is the king of the pack...
Since when?

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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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tc is a fun to drive lift back that looks better than most cars...nuf said
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dex
car manufacturers traction control systems just use the brakes or back off on the throttle to control the traction of the vehicle. now this makes sense for someone who will never open it up and have a little fun with their car. it would make more sense for most of us to get a better limited slip differential. Phantom Grip makes one for the tC now and i just emailed Quaife and they say they will prolly have one soon because the tC's differential is very similar to the MR-2 which they already produce.
soooo keep me/us posted on this!!! PM me when you get the 411!!!
Old Mar 14, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Default Re: why does xB have traction and vsc but the tC doesn't?

Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack
Among Scions, it surely is.

I think one big reason the TRAC was probably omitted is to keep the price below a certain point decided upon by the Toyota/Scion marketing gurus, but I would think you should be able to get an aftermarket LSD before too long. There is even an LSD for Echo/xA/xB's out already though its not on sale in the U.S. I beleive it's a TRD Japan part.
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Rion
Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack
Among Scions, it surely is.
WHAT? I don't think so! If it weren't for the xB, there prolly wouldn't even be a SCION
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 01:35 AM
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he..he the xB is largely responsible for people knowing what scion is. But that is not necessarily a good thing because when I tell people i got a scion, their first reaction is "please tell me you didnt get the ugly box". So in a way you are right I guess.
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 01:38 AM
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Default Re: why does xB have traction and vsc but the tC doesn't?

Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by Rion
Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack
Among Scions, it surely is.
WHAT? I don't think so! If it weren't for the xB, there prolly wouldn't even be a SCION
yep, when people ask me what kind of car I drive, I say "Scion" and they think straight to the xB.
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by Rion
Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack
Among Scions, it surely is.
WHAT? I don't think so! If it weren't for the xB, there prolly wouldn't even be a SCION
That's probably true, but the tC is probably what is getting people who like more normal cars into a Scion and it's the most expensive/fastest/nicest one so far, hence king of the pack.

Most xB owners I know, myself included, wouldn't want an tC and most tC owners wouldn't want an xB. It's all about diversity.
Old Mar 15, 2005 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rion
Originally Posted by jethro b
Originally Posted by Rion
Originally Posted by xnevergiveinx
i don't know, it seems like the tC is the king of the pack
Among Scions, it surely is.
WHAT? I don't think so! If it weren't for the xB, there prolly wouldn't even be a SCION
That's probably true, but the tC is probably what is getting people who like more normal cars into a Scion and it's the most expensive/fastest/nicest one so far, hence king of the pack.

Most xB owners I know, myself included, wouldn't want an tC and most tC owners wouldn't want an xB. It's all about diversity.
WOW We actually agree on something!
Eventually the tC may pass the xB in popularity. But that will be due to the xB going out of production after the 06' model year
Untill then the xB with it's elegance/value price/modability= "KING" of the pack. It's what people think of when they think of SCION
It's easy for the tC owners to think otherwise because that is what they own. IMO

OH, and the people that call it ugly are way outnumbered by the folks that absolutely love the looks like 10 to 1

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