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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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the tein basics are probably the most conservative set of coilovers out right now. You can aways change out the springs to a softer set with coilovers
Old Apr 28, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scionman05
Which set of coilovers will give you the best ride quality out of all the ones that are out right now? I want to lower my car as I feel I want to so I dont want drop springs. But i dont want a horrible ride either. Some prices would be too

there is a set in the parts page on the site here for like 400 sumthin. Ground controls I think? Are they any good for daily driving? I dont wanna spend all kinds of money on coilovers. A thousand dollars is way out the question. A few hundred more and can bag it.
Ground Controls are a sleeve-type coilover, so they do not replace the entire shock/spring assembly. They are good for daily driving, and the springs are made by Eibach (at least I think they still are). But you will still need to upgrade your shocks.

If you want something under 1k you should get the Tein Basics. Mine were $750. Coilovers are meant for performance, so you won't ever find something that is as "comfortable" as stock.
Old Apr 30, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lip
The Progress Tech kit is only height adjustable. The spring rates and shock combinations have been carefully chosen to provide a performance-oriented ride that has been tested and retested to work specifically with the tC chassis on a shock dyno. The combination was not chosen based on what everyone else is doing. The rates were picked to provide a ride that will perform on the street and the track, and give a compliant ride under many conditions without shaking the fillings out of your teeth!

Yes this kit will give you a firmer and more planted ride than what you get from the stock setup or the basic kits, and will be above and beyond your expectations!

We've talked in length with Progress Tech about this kit, and the amount of time and effort, R&D, and quality that they have put into this kit is above and beyond what other companies have. And it's why we are so excited to offer it to the tC crowd. We know that this kit is going to deliver exactly what you expect from a coil over kit and then some. Progress Tech and PartShippers is so confident that you will be completely satisfied with this kit, that if you're not, return it, and we will give you a full refund!

They have analysed and dyno-tested the other kits on the market that are comparable to this kit - specifically the Tein Super Street kit. The adjustable shocks actually provided very inconsistent results on the shock dyno.. the adjustment ranges were insignificant.

Progress didn't see the need to market and produce a feature in their kit that would only make the price of the kit more expensive and provide little value to the customer.

hope this answers your questions!
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Let me know if you have any other questions.. just covering for Lip!
those look interesting, i will be in the market for some coilovers in about a month or 2 (need to get the money first) dont they have those coilovers any cheaper? other sites, sales?
Old May 2, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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This kit really is as good as described... the quality - made in the USA! - is really top notch. Progress didn't skim on anything.

We are running this deal exclusively with Progress Tech to offer this low price. We are not aware of this deal being offered anywhere else as low as this. The deal will be running until the end of the month. I hope you can take advantage of it!
Old May 2, 2005 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Lip
made in the USA!
I know I won't be buying, then!
Old May 3, 2005 | 04:45 AM
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hey lip do u guys have plans for selling progress shocks or dampers in the future?
Old May 3, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SassyScion
Originally Posted by Lip
made in the USA!
I know I won't be buying, then!
Nothing will beat H&R's engineering.
Old May 3, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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i thought teins SS are good
Old May 3, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Hey Sensay,

They currently are not available, but that doesn't mean Progress won't make 'em! I'll be in touch with them later, and find out what their plans are for shock/strut kits..

We just have the springs and rear sway bar for the tC right now - along with that coil over kit.

We will be getting some nice suspension and chassis braces from GTSpec toward the end of the month for your caa... stay tuned. We'll post 'em up as soon as they are available!

Thanks for checking in!
Old May 4, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jrv2000
Nothing will beat H&R's engineering.
I don't disagree, but the person was talking about the Progress suspension, not H&R.

I think I've decided against the H&Rs because I want something that is both height & dampening adjustable.
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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just something to consider with regards to dampening adjustment being part of your decision.. it won't provide that much of a difference that you will notice when you are turning that dial on a street car. believe me, I've done research and experiments on this from different street cars, to all out race cars.

True, it does make a difference for racing applications, and there are kits out there with adjustable dampening that will help to improve your traction over bumpier track surfaces where the wheels may be exposed to rougher surfaces on turns/trackout - exiting apex - you want those tires to be planted and you want ALL the grip you can possibly ask of your tires under those conditions..

But there are performance street kits on the market today that have adjustable dampening rates on their struts/shocks that don't do hardly anything.

Progressive has done extensive testing when designing this kit, and considered an adjustable shock/strut, but the results that they saw on their shock dyno were inconsistent and insignificant accross the range of adjustments... it just didn't make sense to invest the time and money into providing a kit with those adjustments too, if it wasn't going to provide any benefit to the end user - where it counts the most.

True, you can turn that dial, or **** and really believe that the car is running stiffer or softer, but in reality, there is very little going on differently within that strut than you are lead to believe.

I am not saying all of this as a sales pitch either, I'm just trying to unload a little bit of my experience to hopefully help ya out!
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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I'm looking into suspension upgrades and was wondering what would be the next upgrade after coil-overs and new tires to help tighten the suspension?
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lip
just something to consider with regards to dampening adjustment being part of your decision.. it won't provide that much of a difference that you will notice when you are turning that dial on a street car.
I agree. I have adjustable dampening on my other car, and I would never take it off of the regular setting unless I was at the track. That is why I chose to go with the Tein Basics, which are not adjustable.

Coilovers without dampening adjustment are fine for daily driving.
Old May 4, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by drainbamaged
I'm looking into suspension upgrades and was wondering what would be the next upgrade after coil-overs and new tires to help tighten the suspension?
A rear sway bar perhaps?
Old May 5, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Definitely a rear sway bar... it'll compliment your coilover kit nicely!

In case you want to see some install pics of a sway bar, you can find a couple here:
http://www.partshippers.com/index.ph...roducts_id=760

We will also be coming out with some really nice GTSpec suspension and chassis braces at the end of this month. stay tuned!

Suspension and chassis braces will improve handling and chassis performance by stiffening things up considerably over what the factory does/does not consider upon building these cars. It'll help reduce body flex and chassis twisting under cornering loads. When you upgrade your suspension and tires, it works harder to absorb the loads created during cornering, but it also transmits more of these loads to the weaker components - suspension bushings, mounting points, strut towers, sway bars, linkage, etc..

So, when considering the upgrading of your suspension to a more performance-oriented setup, you may also want to think about improving these other areas for a completed package.
Old Jun 5, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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We are still waiting for the H&R coilovers to be available in the meantime H&R was nice enough to give us set of the springs so at least we can drop the car when we get it.

They are working on the development for the rear coilovers and once they get that taken care of they will be available. Once that happens we will be getting one of the first sets in the country. So right now it is a waiting game with Germany.

IMHO, this will be my third set of coilovers from them and I love them and wouldnt want anything else.
Old Jun 10, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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H&R coilovers are the shiz. Lifetime warranty seals the deal for me (all dampers will eventually go bad/blow over time).

www.morepowerracing.com quoted me $1320 shipped for H&R coilovers. Good stuff.

I hear of bad things going on at Tein and JIC, and people in the know are advising me to avoid their stuff.
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Let me bring this topic back.

TireRack.com has the H&R's...but nothing else. One of the reasons to buy from Tire Rack is that you can finance from them, which leads me to believe why someone started this thread.

But anywho...does anyone use H&Rs?
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchimuyo
TireRack.com has the H&R's...but nothing else. One of the reasons to buy from Tire Rack is that you can finance from them, which leads me to believe why someone started this thread.
Actually, we have a wholesale account with tirerack & I could get the H&Rs for a pretty good price, so that's the real reason I asked.

I'm guessing there's still no one using them.
Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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lol. So I guessed wrong...but at the same time I didn't miss the mark, becase the bottom line is that you're getting your product from Tire Rack, and the only coil overs they have for a tc are the HRs. It's too bad they don't have others, becaues that means I could order them now and not have to wait half a year to save up for them! But reading around the forums, I don't think HR is the right application for me (just regular, everyday street and highway driving).

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