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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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So I Decided Im going to Save Up And Get Coilovers
But Now Is Deciding Which One To Go With
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Explain more as to what you're looking for.

Racing... or just wanting to dump the car?
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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^ya and do you wanna get some tuckin? if not i would say tein basics
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Explain more as to what you're looking for.

Racing... or just wanting to dump the car?
I want really nice handling, because i have an automatic so theres nothing else for me to look forward to, also lowered to about .5"-1" off my tires. Im going to b getting the Dan Gardner wheels w/Nitto invo 235/40/17 so u get the idea.
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If thats what you want then go with the H&R, KW variants, or the Tein SSP. not just the ss but the ones with the pillow mounts. That will give you good handeling. basics will be too rough if you ask me.
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the tein CST?
Old Aug 6, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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VOTE!!!!!
please...
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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H&R. good company, relatively inexpensive of the bunch, and fully threaded
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 12:38 AM
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i say TRD's...i just installed mine today and i love em. go low enough to slam it and are barley more rough then stock.
Old Aug 7, 2009 | 02:55 AM
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nah man i was considering them but then my friend that said they were awesome to was driving one day and they snapped so i dont trust TRD anymore.
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i say B&G they dump the most..
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That would be the very first I have heard of TRDs having issues. They are Eibach springs and are VERY good. About the best mix of daily driver/performance for this car. I ran them (And autox'd them) all the way up to the point this year when I put the SS-P's on. Also, the point about getting the pillow ball mounts because the basics will be too rough. the SS-PS's are STIFF and MUCH rougher riding than stock. And the pillow ***** (basically solid mounts.. bearing style) make them even rougher. But it is worth it if you are looking for handling in a serious manner. Mine have served me well so far at autox events. However, if I were not autoxing I would probably have stayed on my TRD's honestly.

Teins (And most Japanese springs and adjustable dampers) are actually considered low quality compared to the more serious setups (Koni for example) when you start talking with long time experienced serious competitors, but the Teins are really one of the better setups available for our car in a full coilover. The problem with most Japanese suspension setups is incosistant damper adjustments (3 clicks may be a different setting on all 4 corners) and incosistant spring rates. But overall for what most of us are looking for the Teins (coilovers, not the poor handling, over lowered spring sets for the tC) do a good job.

And if you are looking for handling, you are wise for not trying to slam and tuck like crazy. That is the worst thing you can do. Between .5" and 1" of fender gap is probably about right. Closer to 1" most likely.. but I cant say I have measured it from there on mine. 1.4" of drop from stock is about as low as you want to go if handling is your priority.
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That would be the very first I have heard of TRDs having issues. They are Eibach springs and are VERY good. About the best mix of daily driver/performance for this car. I ran them (And autox'd them) all the way up to the point this year when I put the SS-P's on. Also, the point about getting the pillow ball mounts because the basics will be too rough. the SS-PS's are STIFF and MUCH rougher riding than stock. And the pillow ***** (basically solid mounts.. bearing style) make them even rougher. But it is worth it if you are looking for handling in a serious manner. Mine have served me well so far at autox events. However, if I were not autoxing I would probably have stayed on my TRD's honestly.

Teins (And most Japanese springs and adjustable dampers) are actually considered low quality compared to the more serious setups (Koni for example) when you start talking with long time experienced serious competitors, but the Teins are really one of the better setups available for our car in a full coilover. The problem with most Japanese suspension setups is incosistant damper adjustments (3 clicks may be a different setting on all 4 corners) and incosistant spring rates. But overall for what most of us are looking for the Teins (coilovers, not the poor handling, over lowered spring sets for the tC) do a good job.

And if you are looking for handling, you are wise for not trying to slam and tuck like crazy. That is the worst thing you can do. Between .5" and 1" of fender gap is probably about right. Closer to 1" most likely.. but I cant say I have measured it from there on mine. 1.4" of drop from stock is about as low as you want to go if handling is your priority.
ok, you seem to have a fair amount of knowledge about coilovers so whats your recommendation for me. Im not racing or autox or anything like that, i just like to have fun w/ my car and as you saw i want to be .5"-1''.
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Coilovers are typically advantageous because you can adjust camber, damper settings, ride height, etc. If you are not tuning the suspension to that degree then typically I would say to just get a good set of springs. Much cheaper than a set of coilovers that you may not be getting the full benefit from. The H&R sports are a bit lower than the TRD's and are still really close to optimum drop. I cant speak to the rates of them though. As you go lower, rates should increase along with the drop so it handles properly. But I have heard some good things about the H&R Sports.

Here is a bit of info some of us put together on another forum:

http://www.yoursciontc.com/forums/in...4&st=0&start=0

http://www.yoursciontc.com/forums/in...howtopic=26448
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The TRDS are just renamed Progress coilovers. And the TRD's dont have adjustable dampening. The Tein SSP's are the ones you should get. H&R ones are great too.
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The TRDs we a referring to are the TRD springs (which are eibach) not the coilovers. And again, if you are not tuning the suspension, then coilovers are typically a waste of money. You are just paying 10 times the price for functionality you wont be using. The only benefit if you are not tuning the suspension and making a lot of adjustment with the ss-p's is that they are super stiff springs (much stiffer than TRDs). But again, having run them both for autox and daily driving, if I were not autoxing or really pushing the car I would have probably stayed with the trd springs.
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I'm on basics... gives it a good drop, my tires tuck, and I don't rub. It's not too stiff, nor is it too bouncy. I've ridden in others like the ksports, ss, trds, stechs, htechs, skunk2, just to try out and buy which ones I like, and the basics are I think the best choice. Good for daily driving...
But the guy above is right, if you're not going to autox or anything like that save some money and get springs.
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The basics for daily driving may be a good choice as you said since they dont have the pillow ball mounts, which will transfer more roughness throughout the chasis.

The spring rates are the same between the Basics, SS and SS-P.
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