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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 11:34 PM
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Ive heard people getting their brake rotor cyrogenicly treated. What does that mean? Does it make your rotors last longer?
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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They actually freeze the rotors using liquid nitrogen or some similar method. Its supposed to essentially cause the atoms in the metal form stronger directional bonds. I've heard of it being used in transmissions to prevent shearing, but for rotors on a car mainly driven on the street Id say its overkill.
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More specifically Cryogenic Tempering is using a computer controlled freezer to
bring the temps of the objects in the freezer to -300 or lower. What this does is, on
the molecular level, it tightens up and aligns the material better. Remember in
school you learned that a solid is a solid because the molecules are close together,
and a gas is a gas because the molecules are spread way far apart (at a given temp).

So what happens is they drop your rotors (or pistons, or sword blade, or saxophone)
into the freezer, the computer drops the freezers temps to some close to "absolute
zero" as is safe/possible, and then SLOWLY bring the temps back up over a period of
days so the molecules stay nice and tight, and aligned after the process is complete.

What this does for brake rotors is makes them smoother, stronger, and less prone
to warp. Lots of parts on race engines are cryogenically tempered for strength and
consistency.

Musicians have been known to "age" a brass instrument by having it tempered this
way. It makes the valves float more smoothly and gives a richer tone like what you'd
expect from a vintage or "masterpiece" instrument.

In knives and swords it helps develop a more accurate and stronger edge, and gives
the overall blade a strength that can not be had any other way. I've personally seen
a man hand make a sword blade, temper it the traditional Japanese style, then on top
of that have it cryogenically tempered AND BE ABLE TO CUT THROUGH A 1" THICK
BRADED STEEL CABLE THEY USE TO HOLD TELEPHONE POLES UP!!!

There was a company I worked with the past, they would give out samples of those
cheap ___ plastic BIC disposable shaving razors, the kind you'd get on vacation when
you forget your good razor....and the blades would last A MONTH of regular day to day
use before going dull!!

Obviously I'm a big proponent to Cryo Tempering.
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man.....can u believe this guy.....he's like a walking textbook!!!!......it's great......

Eric.....your vast amounts of misc. information are an inspiration to us all!!
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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if you plan to drive your car hard ...i would recommend buying an extra set of rotors and have them treated.. aftermarket perfomance pads are harder on rotors than your run of the mill street/factory pad... and as lonely raven mentioned..it makes the rotor less prone to warping..

im planing on doing this is if i upgrade the brakes iin anyway..
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Originally Posted by SCI_TC_GUY
man.....can u believe this guy.....he's like a walking textbook!!!!......it's great......

Eric.....your vast amounts of misc. information are an inspiration to us all!!
Thank you, that's very kind of you to say so.

Would you believe I have a severe memory issue, and several doctors can't seem to
figure out why I have such a poor memory? Honestly, names, places, where I park
my car, simple stuff like that is completely lost on me. If I didn't park my box in
the same place at work everyday, I'd lose it...no joke. It kills me to be this retarded
with remembering things, and the best the doctors can figure is maybe I have some
form of ADD and it's affecting how my brain records things.

I just try to imagine what I'd be like if I had a decent memory.....Hmmm, I'd be so SMRT LOL
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haha......werd.......do u remember who I am?!?!????
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how many fingers am I holding up?


good info by the way
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lonely Raven
Originally Posted by SCI_TC_GUY
man.....can u believe this guy.....he's like a walking textbook!!!!......it's great......

Eric.....your vast amounts of misc. information are an inspiration to us all!!
Thank you, that's very kind of you to say so.

Would you believe I have a severe memory issue, and several doctors can't seem to
figure out why I have such a poor memory? Honestly, names, places, where I park
my car, simple stuff like that is completely lost on me. If I didn't park my box in
the same place at work everyday, I'd lose it...no joke. It kills me to be this retarded
with remembering things, and the best the doctors can figure is maybe I have some
form of ADD and it's affecting how my brain records things.

I just try to imagine what I'd be like if I had a decent memory.....Hmmm, I'd be so SMRT LOL
This is the first I've heard on this subject. Very interesting to say the least.
As far memory goes, .........I forgot what I was going to say.
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ_X_Trodinaire
how many fingers am I holding up?


good info by the way
Hey! I have a bad memory, I'm not blind! LOL

haha......werd.......do u remember who I am?!?!????
I remember you drive waaaay too far for Scion meets, but for the life of me I can't
remember your name...hell, I've forgotten Fujiz real name, and he's only told me like
6 times already.

What's weird is that I remember some odd things, but most everything just gets
forgotten. And sometimes things I had no clue I knew will pop up, espeically
when I'm drunk. LOL
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 05:38 AM
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damn, it takes 11 days to get an answer on this forum. Thanks raven for the info
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Lonley Raven
I remember you drive waaaay too far for Scion meets, but for the life of me I can't
remember your name...hell, I've forgotten Fujiz real name, and he's only told me like
6 times already.
JESUS!!!!!!! no really....Jesus is Fujiz name.......i think???

i"m Ben.....and yes, I drive Far&Wide for a scion meet!!!!

are you coming to our meet/greet/cruise on APR 10??? there's gonna be a showing of like 40 scions......Chicago area...STL area....Memphis....Kentucky....Evansville.....it's gonna be BOMB!!!!!
Old Mar 19, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Glad to help reagulator. Sorry I derailed your thread.

(Raven takes notes of peoples names and starts making
cue cards to match up a name, to a face, to a car) LOL

Actually, I was going to start a thread in the SEGL forums
about putting faces to names and cars with my photography
skillz. I didn't want to admit, but this was the reason I wanted
to do that.

I'm going to make all the meets I can, but for real, lets not
derail this thread any further.




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