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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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Old Jan 22, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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i wish i knew, they are a bunch of numbers to me.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:12 AM
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i wish i knew, they are a bunch of numbers to me.
hahahaha same here
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:26 AM
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you need an alignment. you have too much toe. the back has too much camber, your tires will wear out quick.

basically you want to keep the numbers under the "actual" section in between the "specified range" section for best tire wear. if you autox or track, thats different. im assuming your car is lowered due to the big camber change in the rear...if you lower your car, its pretty much required to get an alignment unless you want to go through tires every month.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:30 AM
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well for starters was the tech just checking the alignment? because if not they didn't adjust anything!

the toe in the front is WAY off, and the toe in the rear is off as well, but the camber in the rear needs to be re-adjusted. Camber in the back should be -0.9 degrees.

The toe in the front should be 0.00 on both sides. Don't let them sell you that 0.02 or 0.03 is "good enough" get it to 0.00 and you'll be good.

the rear toe should be 0.15inch on both sides.

yes, you need it adjusted!
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tri856
Originally Posted by geo46_2
i wish i knew, they are a bunch of numbers to me.
hahahaha same here

im on the same boat guys
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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you must ram into curbs pretty good.
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if he did run into curbs, you'd be looking at a lot worse that -0.15in in the front! and the caster/camber would be way off and it isn't.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:49 AM
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both front toes are out... considering they are in the negatives that means that they are both pointing in... with that being said you prolly don't really feel a pull but you will notice if you don't get them fix you will have excessive wear on the outer part of the tires... you will prolly notice vibrations at high speeds...now the rears.. both toes are out.. r/r is way out and the camber is out... with that being said.. you will notice vibrations at high speeds and the inside of you tire will wear excessively.. the camber is not out so bad that they can not adjust it... get it adjusted.. only 70
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he did ram into curbs, I spoke with the OP.

Im guessing while trying to parallel park.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 12:51 AM
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really.. well then he'd also be looking at bent wheels. so he rams curbs and we're supposed to tell him if the alignment is out after that? duh.. of course it would be.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mystik
you need an alignment. you have too much toe. the back has too much camber, your tires will wear out quick.

basically you want to keep the numbers under the "actual" section in between the "specified range" section for best tire wear. if you autox or track, thats different. im assuming your car is lowered due to the big camber change in the rear...if you lower your car, its pretty much required to get an alignment unless you want to go through tires every month.
tha back camber is perfect, leave that, have them fix the toe
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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Camber is fine. That much camber will NOT eat up your tires. My rear has been at -2 for around 45,000 miles, my fronts are at -1.76. I have them set that way because the car handles better that way. I autox mine and have played around with those settings just for that purpose. With yours, you have more grip in the rear though since your front camber is closer to neutral. You would need camber bolts to increase the front to match (I personally would do that rather than correct the rear). One set of camber bolts in the lower holes up front got me to -1.76. There are tons of people that run that much camber and never have wear issues.

However, the toe being out of whack too far will eat your tires up. And the wrong toe settings can mix with your camber settings to cause even more wear. Yours is a bit out of spec.. and if anything I would want the car toed out, not in. But for a daily driver I would get that adjusted back into spec.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:18 AM
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haha those settings look tame compared to how mine were...i wish i could find mine....but i had 3/4' of total toe and my tires were gone in around 1000 miles...and my camber is way more in than that also...
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^^ thats true.. more camber in means better grip while making turns... but slower straight line.. but with our cars you won't notice it that much
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your statement is true to a degree....
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reminds me of yesterday when i went to get my alignment...i told the guy "i want -1.5 camber all around" an hour later he comes back and prints me up the results....he had set front and rear toe to -1.5. at least he fixed it up without more charge.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Negative camber does increase cornering grip.. but it does not have much of an effect on straight line speed. I thnk that is toe yo are thinking of. You can adjust toe to make for quicker turn in response, and even help the car rotate more. however, if you drag race, increased toe will hurt your straight line speed a bit.
Old Jan 23, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by O5_TRD_tC
he did ram into curbs, I spoke with the OP.

Im guessing while trying to parallel park.
lol, i've hit curbs a couple of times in the past, but not RAM, lol, you make it sound like i was going faster than 1 mph

thanks everybody for your input! even the ones that didn't know anything...

oh, and i lowered my car with just TRD springs
Old Jan 29, 2009 | 05:08 AM
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okay, so they fixed everything but the "Cross SAI"

...does anyone know what that is? and how bad is it if it's out of spec?



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