Show off your Big Brake Kit (BBK)..
Originally Posted by Brakefade
Originally Posted by Garage1217
I have the wilwood 4 pot fronts with 13" 2 peice rotors with powerslot bbk rear sitting at home waiting for me along with tons of other goodies. I will be sure to post pics the second I get them on this weekend!
Also, why is it that most bbk are for the front wheels only? Wouldn't braking performance be better if bbk upgraded all 4 wheels? Plus the car would look a lot better with all 4 wheels upgraded.
Originally Posted by Garage1217
Originally Posted by Brakefade
Originally Posted by Garage1217
I have the wilwood 4 pot fronts with 13" 2 peice rotors with powerslot bbk rear sitting at home waiting for me along with tons of other goodies. I will be sure to post pics the second I get them on this weekend!
Also, why is it that most bbk are for the front wheels only? Wouldn't braking performance be better if bbk upgraded all 4 wheels? Plus the car would look a lot better with all 4 wheels upgraded.
We need to figure out if there is a set of stock rotors and calipers from a minivan or something that we can use.
On my Civic I used Prelude (vtec model) 11.1 inch calipers and minivan/prelude/itr calipers to upgrade from the little tiny stock 9 inch rotors. Stopped great, cost me like $200. I (and most people) don't need 4 pot, just more surface area and a little bigger piston.
The tC brakes just seem a too small to get the job done.
I will say when I did the 4 pot 300z brake swap onto my 97 240sx, those were some badass brakes! But I'll settle for single piston if I can get them cheap!
On my Civic I used Prelude (vtec model) 11.1 inch calipers and minivan/prelude/itr calipers to upgrade from the little tiny stock 9 inch rotors. Stopped great, cost me like $200. I (and most people) don't need 4 pot, just more surface area and a little bigger piston.
The tC brakes just seem a too small to get the job done.
I will say when I did the 4 pot 300z brake swap onto my 97 240sx, those were some badass brakes! But I'll settle for single piston if I can get them cheap!
a little late into the discussion, and perhaps OT (since this was a "show off" thread) but anyways, here it goes.
instigator, you preach heavily about all the factors that can worsen braking performance than stock if someone doesn't do the proper R&D. however, you suggested TRD kit for the celica (i think you did, i may be wrong), but has anyone actually put R&D into this kit on the tC? also, you ran a custom set up from parts from stop tech on your tC, did you actually did R&D on the parts combo that you implmented?
i am curious, and i suspect that the answer to above are both no, which is okay. but i just want to be clear. i am just curious which route should i take to actually gain significant performance with BBK.
instigator, you preach heavily about all the factors that can worsen braking performance than stock if someone doesn't do the proper R&D. however, you suggested TRD kit for the celica (i think you did, i may be wrong), but has anyone actually put R&D into this kit on the tC? also, you ran a custom set up from parts from stop tech on your tC, did you actually did R&D on the parts combo that you implmented?
i am curious, and i suspect that the answer to above are both no, which is okay. but i just want to be clear. i am just curious which route should i take to actually gain significant performance with BBK.
We use the same kit on the tC and Celica since their braking systems are more or less identical. The front calipers, rotors, pads, brake lines and master cylinders are all the same parts with only the rear calipers and pad shape being slightly different. The tC uses a 1mm larger piston in the rear calipers which has a minor impact on torque output and may be adjusted for by a slightly different pad compounds. We did test the car like we do for all applications and found no need to modify the existing Celica kit as it worked perfectly on the tC.
Im not sure where you are getting information that I ran a custom kit on my tC. I used the standard off the shelf kit that we sell to our customers with no changes other than race pads when I went to the track.
As far as signifincant performance gains with a BBK, you cant expect to see huge reduction in actual stopping distances from 60-0 unless you fit better tires. Factory systems are well balanced to start with making a 3-5 foot reduction a significant improvement. Tires are really the best way to reduce stopping distances but they will also increase the amount of work the brakes can do which in turn will generate more heat. The larger rotors of a BBK will allow you to absorb and dissipate that heat much more effectively which leads to consistent braking performance, reduced chance of pad or fluid fade and longer component life. The main issue with kits that arent implemented properly is that if the piston sizes are too large and too much front torque is added, the vehicle may stop much longer than stock which is exactly the opposite of what you are looking for from a brake upgrade. As far as we know, we are the only company that does the testing we do and can guarantee that the kit will always match or beat stock performance, but never be worse with all factors equal.
Im not sure where you are getting information that I ran a custom kit on my tC. I used the standard off the shelf kit that we sell to our customers with no changes other than race pads when I went to the track.
As far as signifincant performance gains with a BBK, you cant expect to see huge reduction in actual stopping distances from 60-0 unless you fit better tires. Factory systems are well balanced to start with making a 3-5 foot reduction a significant improvement. Tires are really the best way to reduce stopping distances but they will also increase the amount of work the brakes can do which in turn will generate more heat. The larger rotors of a BBK will allow you to absorb and dissipate that heat much more effectively which leads to consistent braking performance, reduced chance of pad or fluid fade and longer component life. The main issue with kits that arent implemented properly is that if the piston sizes are too large and too much front torque is added, the vehicle may stop much longer than stock which is exactly the opposite of what you are looking for from a brake upgrade. As far as we know, we are the only company that does the testing we do and can guarantee that the kit will always match or beat stock performance, but never be worse with all factors equal.
thanks for the clarification. so, are you saying that the tC will improve stopping distance with all things equal but
option1. an upgrade of the TRD kit in the front? should i need to change out rear pads like some ppl do on here?
option2. stoptech upgrade that you ran. which by the way, i can't find it on the website as a package. there is no bbk available for the tc, only stage 2, or your combo appears to be aero kit + some other parts that they offer. if you think this is a better route, can you provide the details on the parts you used?
thanks.
option1. an upgrade of the TRD kit in the front? should i need to change out rear pads like some ppl do on here?
option2. stoptech upgrade that you ran. which by the way, i can't find it on the website as a package. there is no bbk available for the tc, only stage 2, or your combo appears to be aero kit + some other parts that they offer. if you think this is a better route, can you provide the details on the parts you used?
thanks.
I emailed StopTech about the lack of the recent lack of a BBK for the tC, and they said that they are no longer making BBKs for Toyota cars. Maybe TRD bought the distribution rights like they did for the LSD?
I have a question about the TRD BBK. Is that supplied by StopTech? I compared pictures of both and they look really alike.
I have a question about the TRD BBK. Is that supplied by StopTech? I compared pictures of both and they look really alike.
Centirc owns StopTech and supplies us with our direct replacement products, but does not produce any of our big brake components.
http://www.stoptech.com/company_info..._Centric.shtml
http://www.stoptech.com/company_info..._Centric.shtml








