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Old May 10, 2006 | 01:40 AM
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I am sure this has been asked before, but I need advice.
1) Are the TRD springs worth it or should I go with another brand. I ask because I do want the drop, but not so much that a camber kit is needed, nor have any scrubbing.

2)Can it be done by ones self or will a mechanic need to do it as to realign the vehical?

Please be specific as I do require peoples experiance in this matter
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:52 AM
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TRD is a good drop but will still leave a wheel gap. I was choosing between that spring a while back. I dont have a lip kit so those wouldnt help me make my car look a bit lower so i went with Hotchkis springs. i have camber in the rear but not much. I know it will wear out my tires a bit faster than usuall on the inside but....? I didnt think i needed an allignment since my wheel was still going straight but i got one anyways? I was also thinking tein s-techs but those were too much of a drop for me. i got mine installed for $100 at a local car/audio shop. Not bad since the dealer wanted to charge me $500! PLEASE dont go to the dealer to get this installed! Go to a local car shop or something, call around! I dont have any experience on installing any suspension yet others either but were still able to install it themselves? if you want to install it yourself i know there are plenty of DIY on springs here! good luck!

p.s.- im on stock shocks for about 7 months with these springs. no problems and still a nice ride! Those springs stiffened up my wheel.
Old May 10, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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if you plan on running 19's, TRD springs are great. For anything smaller, i wouldnt go for anything that has less than a hotchkis drop. I personally have S-Tech's and run 18's and don't have any rubbing whatsoever. The slammed look is just... hot.
Old May 10, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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I am keeping the wheel diamiter the same as stock. I do not mined a gap that is atleast 2 fingures width and I am trying to avoid a camber kith though. Also, there is no way in hell that i would have parts such as this installed by a dealer. I have heard others have done the springs themselves, but I think that would be redundent as the alignment would be nessisary.
So as of this time, what I am hearing is that Hotchicks would be the best bet. Anyone else have an opion?
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:54 AM
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I would go with the Tein S-Techs, installation is possible but I'd recommend having at least 1 other person to help you if you want the install to go by alittle quicker.
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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if i get TRD spring, do i need to change strut too?
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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just alil Q with yall runnin 18's and the tein-s how do yall go about jackin up the car ?? anything special or will most jacks still fit??/
Old May 12, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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How did we get off track here?
Nevertheless, Tein S Tech would be great, but it has a 2" drop which require a camber kit. I would like to avoid that. i would like a 1.8 or 1.5 drop. This prevents a camber kit yet still has a good drop look and provides the best over all performace. Any other opinions?
Old May 12, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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How does teh s-tech require a camber kit? it does not....
Old May 12, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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i run basics close to lowest setting and have not gotten a camber kit, should be fine. and the install shouldn't be too tough, and you'll save money doing it yourself. that's what i did.
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Scotty
just alil Q with yall runnin 18's and the tein-s how do yall go about jackin up the car ?? anything special or will most jacks still fit??/
My shop has racing jacks... ;)
Old May 12, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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What I have found whitin my research, is that anything that is droped more than 1.8" will strain the camber and will bow the wheels. It will not always be visually appreant, but when placed on the bench for calibration, it will show them to be off in the negitive. If this not compinsated by a camber kit, than the tires will wear prematurly and the performance will suffer as a resault. A 2" drop is nice, as long as you have a camber adjustment to compinsate the bowing. I am not willing to through money on a compinsation such as this, thus precludes my pervious question.
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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it will be off so much that the tires will not wear like you are saying... by the way im dropped like 3" and no camber kit I have the pillowball mounts and I have it even more negative. Wanted to test it auto x like that and did... Barely any wear difference showing and I was beating the crap out of it... By the way rims dont bow... If they did they would break. ;)
Old May 12, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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I did not mean the rim itself, but rather there linier alignment to the to 0 point of the vehical. People are use to hearing it called positive and negitive camber alignment. So what I was refering to is just that a bow inward or a bow outword. Same thing, different words.
If you droped 3" without a camber kit and you are still at 0 point on the rear, than kudos to you. I personally have never seen a 3" drop that did not require a camber kit. Then again, the tC might have its own adjustable cambers that when the suspension is installed it is adjustable enough to compinstate for negitive or positive camber.
Old May 12, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Let me ask you this... what car are you basing this off of... cuz after your last statement obviously not from you testing the tc its from testing another car
Old May 13, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by -Keith-
Let me ask you this... what car are you basing this off of... cuz after your last statement obviously not from you testing the tc its from testing another car
You are correct. I had an Acura Integra GSR that was modified to the hilt. I placed it in sponsered auto-X raceing. The rear camber was static and required a camber kit to compinsate, but then again, it again it had a 2.8" drop front and rear.
Old May 13, 2006 | 04:22 AM
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I have Tein S-Techs and am a factory trained toyota and honda mechanic. I have worked at a dealership for 3 years and done numerous alignments. On S-Techs you only need to purchase front eccentric bolts which can be found on ebay for $25. You can bring in the rear with an alignment using the stock eccentric bolts installed on every tc from the factory. If you are going to spend the money on springs you should purchase a camber kit aswell. On TRD springs you will be within spec on the front and back to do a quick alignment without any extra parts. On any other springs however chances are very good you must purchase front eccentric bolts. Anytime you remove the struts from a car with macpherson strut based suspension you should do an alignment to properly compensate. This is due to the fact that your strut acts as a linkage between the frame of your car and the lower arms. Comparing a tc to your experiencees with an acura integra however is like comparing an orange to an apple. They are two completely different cars.
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just go with Hotchkis!



Old May 14, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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Nice drop on that, did you install that yourself? and did you have to get alignment done? or buy anything extra?
Old May 14, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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can someone answer my question?
if i buy dealer option one, TRD spring, do i need to change strut too?



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