hey. i just installed some tein s-techs, springs only, stock shocks were left on. and i cut the bump stop in the front according to what tein said. i left the rear bump stop and did not cut because instructions said nothing of the rear ones. ride quality is perfect but it seems now i have somewhat of just a little negative camber. anyone notice this with just tein springs and stock shocks? just curious? it also appears that my tc is slammed more than some of the pics ive seen on here. my front tire is tucking barely. any help please? should i worry about a camber kit or do you usually get a little negative camber with tein s tech springs? also anything i could have done wrong ? should i not have cut the bump stops? thank you!

 

You will need to get a camber kit for the rear and front. Did u get the car aligned yet? You probably had to cut the bumps stops no matter what so I think the only cure is gonna be to get a camber kit for the rear and front. That will surely fix any negative camber problems. A little negative camber is ok and would improve handling, but if u have to much u can will wear through ur tires very quickly.

 

not true

i've had the TEIN S.TECH's for about 25k miles now and 20k miles of that are on the tires i have now.

tire wear is very even. there is negative camber yes but is so small that it wunt affect your daily drivability. you didnt have to cut either of the bump stops

i didnt cut either of my bump stops and i know many others who didnt bother either. usually when you do a drop you would want to get your aligned but i dindt get mine aligned until 1k miles after i installed teh S.TECH's and the alignment was not off at all.

you are safe. but if ur iffy, go get an alignment

and did you TQ down all the proper bolts at the proper weight?

 

i've had my Stechs on for about 4000k. i noticed negative camber, especially in my back tires, but i took it to the dealer and they did the alignment, which straightened my tires out. i have yet to notice any uneven tire wear. however, i have heard that a SECOND alignment is needed once the springs have settled....does anyone know if that's completely necessary or not??

 

Negative camber does not accelerate tire wear, toe does. I honestly don't know how many times I've had to write that. You can run 3 or 4 degrees of negative camber without adversely affecting tire wear-- but even 1/8" of total tow out in the front will drastically increase wear rate.

Get the toe corrected. Don't worry about the camber unless the specs are off dramatically (i.e. one tire is -1.5º more than the adjacent tire). In that event, an adjustable camber link or plate would be in order.

 

Mine wasnt off at all that much in the front, i adjusted the rear close to specs for handling and all, but the front toe was off quite a bit. But i do have to agree with isotope, toe is what wears you tires more than anything and people just cant seem to absorb that into their heads.

 

...so wats this with cutting the stops?do i do it or not?ima bout to install these!???

 

So if I set my front toe to 1/16th in and my rear camber is =1.5degs, I would be fine? (i'm pulling these numbers from what lo_bux has advised me)

 

1/16" toe out in the front and -1.5º camber all around would be absolutely fine for street driving-- quite nice, in fact. With my TRDs, I run about -0.8º in the front, -1.0º in the back, and no toe

 

Anyone ever heard of negative cambering the right side slightly to compensate for weight on the left as well as street curvature (Some streets in socal are more like straight mounds of road).

The guy who did my alignment today suggested it...they don't use any electronic machines to do alignment. They've been in business for 30 years and have manually aligned vehicles doing it the old fashioned way (of which I don't know what is, but it sort of looks like a messed up dyno).

Anyway, he said so long as I rotated the tires as often as I should be doing anyway that there would not be an issue with uneven wear.

Feedback please

 

To get the most accurate alignment possible, the car should be aligned with your "usual" weight in the car-- at the very least, your weight in the driver's seat.

We manually align as well-- caster/camber gauge, camber plates, toe plates, and good old tape measures. Good enough for racecars, good enough for street cars.

 

If I had my own plates I'd do it myself, but I know a guy who does it all by hand and sets it the way I like it, not the way the book says it should be.

He's got the machine with the lasers and all too. He checks with it but rarely adjusts with it.

I've not heard of negative CAMBER on one side, but I got schooled on CASTER the last time I was in because my caster is very different from left to right. Apparently, they stagger the caster to counteract torque steer. It must work because I feel only a little torque steer in the tC, and I've always hated that about FWD.

 

Lasers? We have a high tech alternative called "string".