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Originally Posted by tek2k
Originally Posted by dhan
BTW - these HIDs look great - who wants to pay thousands of dollars for a retrofit HID projector lamps. They dont melt the mousing or my parking lights and they make the road bright and sparkly. Well, you don't get the super crisp cut off line but I dont think I'm ever going to compare cut off lines and such. Others might...if so, feel free to go all out.
edit: 8000k HIDs? even more of a waste. that's just my opinion of course. your car still looks good.
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Originally Posted by motozen
aren't you afraid of melting your LED courtesy/parking lights?
Originally Posted by djct_watt
Originally Posted by motozen
aren't you afraid of melting your LED courtesy/parking lights?
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I dunno. . . that was my understanding. . . am I wrong? Something more than a face is helpful. I'm not a lighting expert, but I remember reading OEM brochures about HID, and how they operate more efficiently, as there is less heat created. The light is created by an arc of electricity through gasses, rather than running current through a filament until its temperature creates incandescence, thus emitting light. I thought the k in HID refers to the temperature color of the light, even though the actual amount of heat created is far less than bulbs utilizing filaments. If I misunderstand it, I actually would want to know how it actually works. . . I love learning and reading this kind of stuff.
djct_watt wrote:
Soory...
but you have it the opposite. Color Temperature is measured in Degrees Kelvin. So the higher the "K" the hotter the light bulb. Most halogen light bulbs range about 3200K. HID light bulbs range from 4200K to 14000K or 16000K.
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
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djct_watt wrote:
Soory...
but you have it the opposite. Color Temperature is measured in Degrees Kelvin. So the higher the "K" the hotter the light bulb. Most halogen light bulbs range about 3200K. HID light bulbs range from 4200K to 14000K or 16000K.
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
Before you sound so sure of your self, he was referring to physical temperature in *C or *F, not color temperature in Kelvin.....
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That's what I thought. . . and Kelvin is actually a temperature used in physics. It's something like K=C-270 , as to account for absolute zero. But in light output, K stands for nothing more than the color of the light, not the actual heat emission.
Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.
Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.
Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.
Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.
Originally Posted by djct_watt
That's what I thought. . . and Kelvin is actually a temperature used in physics. It's something like K=C-270 , as to account for absolute zero. But in light output, K stands for nothing more than the color of the light, not the actual heat emission.
Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.
Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.
Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.
Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.
Agreed! I'm now currently own MCS, has HID (xenon headlights), Foglights (reg H7 halogen). After I turned both lights on for 2 hours so I thouched them both, I couldn't even notice from HID lights but OEM foglights are fre.k.ng HOT...ouch!!! burning my fingers.
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Oh wait, I think I know what Motozen was raising the eyebrow about! Were you talking about the hyper whites in the parking light, and not the HID's in the headlights, melting the housing? That might be possible actually, as they are incandescents, but I think most hyperwhite 194's are low wattage anyway, if not the same as OEM. The highest wattage I've seen are 15 watts, which really isn't that hot. But if you were talkin about the HID headlights melting anthing. . . it is highly unlikely, if not impossible.
I dont think the HID's emit enough heat to have the LED's melt off or else your entire headlight housing would be in very big trouble.
Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
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Originally Posted by dhan
I dont think the HID's emit enough heat to have the LED's melt off or else your entire headlight housing would be in very big trouble.
Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
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yup, only aftermarket high wattage bulbs can do that. . . but the real deal which you bought are the shizzle, and will not cause you any problems.
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