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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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BTW - these HIDs look great - who wants to pay thousands of dollars for a retrofit HID projector lamps. They dont melt the mousing or my parking lights and they make the road bright and sparkly. Well, you don't get the super crisp cut off line but I dont think I'm ever going to compare cut off lines and such. Others might...if so, feel free to go all out.
thousands of dollars? all the hardware required will cost roughly 500, the rest is labor. it might be hard work, but the final product is much better than throwing in an HID "kit" into a halogen reflector housing.
edit: 8000k HIDs? even more of a waste. that's just my opinion of course. your car still looks good.
I'm a pretty lazy guy so that might be it...
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aren't you afraid of melting your LED courtesy/parking lights?
Old Mar 16, 2005 | 08:18 PM
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Great job!!! Your tc looks awsome!
Like the drop and the eye lids (looks a bit like an A4)
Old Mar 16, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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looks good, keep up the good work
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Originally Posted by motozen
aren't you afraid of melting your LED courtesy/parking lights?
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 12:38 AM
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aren't you afraid of melting your LED courtesy/parking lights?
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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I dunno. . . that was my understanding. . . am I wrong? Something more than a face is helpful. I'm not a lighting expert, but I remember reading OEM brochures about HID, and how they operate more efficiently, as there is less heat created. The light is created by an arc of electricity through gasses, rather than running current through a filament until its temperature creates incandescence, thus emitting light. I thought the k in HID refers to the temperature color of the light, even though the actual amount of heat created is far less than bulbs utilizing filaments. If I misunderstand it, I actually would want to know how it actually works. . . I love learning and reading this kind of stuff.
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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djct_watt wrote:
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
Soory... but you have it the opposite. Color Temperature is measured in Degrees Kelvin. So the higher the "K" the hotter the light bulb. Most halogen light bulbs range about 3200K. HID light bulbs range from 4200K to 14000K or 16000K.
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by amoraes
djct_watt wrote:
HID's have more light output than halogens and actually run cooler in temperature. Melting shouldn't be an issue, or so I understand. . .
Soory... but you have it the opposite. Color Temperature is measured in Degrees Kelvin. So the higher the "K" the hotter the light bulb. Most halogen light bulbs range about 3200K. HID light bulbs range from 4200K to 14000K or 16000K.


Before you sound so sure of your self, he was referring to physical temperature in *C or *F, not color temperature in Kelvin.....
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That's what I thought. . . and Kelvin is actually a temperature used in physics. It's something like K=C-270 , as to account for absolute zero. But in light output, K stands for nothing more than the color of the light, not the actual heat emission.

Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.

Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by djct_watt
That's what I thought. . . and Kelvin is actually a temperature used in physics. It's something like K=C-270 , as to account for absolute zero. But in light output, K stands for nothing more than the color of the light, not the actual heat emission.

Take this example, an incandescent bulb (like a regular light bulb) that runs at 80 watts. Now find one of those spiral fluorescent bulbs that run at 16 watts, but produce the equivalent light output of an 80 watt bulb. You'll notice that the the fluorescent bulb will have the same color light output (same k, if not higher). Now touch the fluorescent bulb. . . you'll notice that it's only warm. Now touch the incandescent bulb. . . I hope you've learned your lesson about light color and heat emission.

Just because a light is brighter, doesn't necessarily mean that it runs hotter, and this is in reference to the original quote about HID's melting a light housing.

Agreed! I'm now currently own MCS, has HID (xenon headlights), Foglights (reg H7 halogen). After I turned both lights on for 2 hours so I thouched them both, I couldn't even notice from HID lights but OEM foglights are fre.k.ng HOT...ouch!!! burning my fingers.
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Oh wait, I think I know what Motozen was raising the eyebrow about! Were you talking about the hyper whites in the parking light, and not the HID's in the headlights, melting the housing? That might be possible actually, as they are incandescents, but I think most hyperwhite 194's are low wattage anyway, if not the same as OEM. The highest wattage I've seen are 15 watts, which really isn't that hot. But if you were talkin about the HID headlights melting anthing. . . it is highly unlikely, if not impossible.
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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yeah. . . I just double checked, those are LED bulbs, which run cooler than incandescents as well. Definitely no melting issues with those.
Old Mar 17, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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I dont think the HID's emit enough heat to have the LED's melt off or else your entire headlight housing would be in very big trouble.

Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
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looks good
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dhan
I dont think the HID's emit enough heat to have the LED's melt off or else your entire headlight housing would be in very big trouble.

Well, I've had these one for about a month now with plenty of use and there are no problems.
That's the whole point! Both HID's and LED's emit less heat. . . therefore if the stock bulbs don't melt the housing (which I sure hope they don't!) then it would be impossible for true HID's or LED's to cause any damage whatsoever (unless you botched the install somehow).
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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hahahah imagine your headlight housing in a gooey mess...that would be pretty funny...
Old Mar 18, 2005 | 08:30 PM
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yup, only aftermarket high wattage bulbs can do that. . . but the real deal which you bought are the shizzle, and will not cause you any problems.
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nice drop!

The car looks like a pockemon with those eyelids though :D
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