squirrel finders?
12-14-2011, 05:30 AM
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12-14-2011, 03:20 PM
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Why the H do they call it Squirrel finders???????
So much talk about these.. I'm starting to wonder if I should bother adjusting mine. Is it just about the cutoff line or is there actual intensifying on the normal beam pattern?
On a side note.. who the heck thinks another car has its brights on if only the projector style lamps are illuminated? is there such a thing as High Beam projectors??
So much talk about these.. I'm starting to wonder if I should bother adjusting mine. Is it just about the cutoff line or is there actual intensifying on the normal beam pattern?
On a side note.. who the heck thinks another car has its brights on if only the projector style lamps are illuminated? is there such a thing as High Beam projectors??
12-14-2011, 11:08 PM
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Why the H do they call it Squirrel finders???????
So much talk about these.. I'm starting to wonder if I should bother adjusting mine. Is it just about the cutoff line or is there actual intensifying on the normal beam pattern?
On a side note.. who the heck thinks another car has its brights on if only the projector style lamps are illuminated? is there such a thing as High Beam projectors??
So much talk about these.. I'm starting to wonder if I should bother adjusting mine. Is it just about the cutoff line or is there actual intensifying on the normal beam pattern?
On a side note.. who the heck thinks another car has its brights on if only the projector style lamps are illuminated? is there such a thing as High Beam projectors??
And I haven't altered my squirrel finder for the reasons that Jon stated...I like being able to have some scattered light outside the main cutoff just to see possible hazards that may be lurking.
Also, I have a 55w kit and still haven't been flashed once. Makes me think that this mod isn't necessary. Unless doing this mod actually gives you an intensified illumination within the normal beam patter, like you asked about. But that might not necessarily be a good thing. Too much bright light in the foreground reduces your night vision outside out side of the cutoff. This could make it tougher to see those hazards. That IS speculation though
12-14-2011, 11:59 PM
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Here's a great thread (old) over on HID Planet. LINK
With stock Halogen's running about 1800+ Lumens and HIDs at 3100+ lumens the squirrel finders can produce a ton of glare for oncoming drivers. Lower K HID bulbs will produce less glare and the maximum lumens, but the squirrel finder tab needs to be adjusted slightly. The squirrel finder box can be seen in one of the projector output just above the cutoff line, that's the size at 10+ feet, at 100'-200' and more it could be huge covering the entire lane, producing glare for oncoming driver's.
With stock Halogen's running about 1800+ Lumens and HIDs at 3100+ lumens the squirrel finders can produce a ton of glare for oncoming drivers. Lower K HID bulbs will produce less glare and the maximum lumens, but the squirrel finder tab needs to be adjusted slightly. The squirrel finder box can be seen in one of the projector output just above the cutoff line, that's the size at 10+ feet, at 100'-200' and more it could be huge covering the entire lane, producing glare for oncoming driver's.
12-15-2011, 06:34 PM
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DigitalPro and I seem to be on the same page as we've gone through retrofits for the TC. =) Good guy.
The close-up shots provided from the link to Toyota-Nation will not show the true nature of the squirrel finder box.
The glare box will be HIGHLY noticeable for higher profile vehicles, such as semis, pick-up trucks, SUVs. etc. Now...... for safety's sick.... you don't want a semi to be ____ed off and attempt to haul you over to turn those "high beams" off now do ya? hehehe (some even carry emergency flood-like type lights and will shine them on you if you are behind or in front of them)
MYTH: Once squirrel spotters are modified, you can no longer light up signs.
TRUTH: You can modify and remove the squirrel spotters and STILL light up signs to the right and above you. The projector will show a more clear and crisp cut-off line, BUT there is still just enough light glare leaving the projector that it provides a "slight flare" glare to the signs.
I have done the squirrel finder mod on my OEM 08s after getting pulled over by a local police officer and also being flashed multiple times (I used to drive country back roads a lot, so more likely those drivers will notice it VS city drivers who see other lighting fixtures).
The close-up shots provided from the link to Toyota-Nation will not show the true nature of the squirrel finder box.
The glare box will be HIGHLY noticeable for higher profile vehicles, such as semis, pick-up trucks, SUVs. etc. Now...... for safety's sick.... you don't want a semi to be ____ed off and attempt to haul you over to turn those "high beams" off now do ya? hehehe (some even carry emergency flood-like type lights and will shine them on you if you are behind or in front of them)
MYTH: Once squirrel spotters are modified, you can no longer light up signs.
TRUTH: You can modify and remove the squirrel spotters and STILL light up signs to the right and above you. The projector will show a more clear and crisp cut-off line, BUT there is still just enough light glare leaving the projector that it provides a "slight flare" glare to the signs.
I have done the squirrel finder mod on my OEM 08s after getting pulled over by a local police officer and also being flashed multiple times (I used to drive country back roads a lot, so more likely those drivers will notice it VS city drivers who see other lighting fixtures).
12-15-2011, 06:48 PM
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Luxury cars (and cars with retrofits) have bi-xenon headlamps. There is a servo inside the projector housing that activates and alters the cutoff, making it higher. These cars don't need a separate halogen high-beam like lower-end cars.
And I haven't altered my squirrel finder for the reasons that Jon stated...I like being able to have some scattered light outside the main cutoff just to see possible hazards that may be lurking.
Also, I have a 55w kit and still haven't been flashed once. Makes me think that this mod isn't necessary. Unless doing this mod actually gives you an intensified illumination within the normal beam patter, like you asked about. But that might not necessarily be a good thing. Too much bright light in the foreground reduces your night vision outside out side of the cutoff. This could make it tougher to see those hazards. That IS speculation though
And I haven't altered my squirrel finder for the reasons that Jon stated...I like being able to have some scattered light outside the main cutoff just to see possible hazards that may be lurking.
Also, I have a 55w kit and still haven't been flashed once. Makes me think that this mod isn't necessary. Unless doing this mod actually gives you an intensified illumination within the normal beam patter, like you asked about. But that might not necessarily be a good thing. Too much bright light in the foreground reduces your night vision outside out side of the cutoff. This could make it tougher to see those hazards. That IS speculation though
12-15-2011, 06:58 PM
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12-15-2011, 07:05 PM
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I myself just removed the bulb and using a flat head screwdrivers felt around for the squirrel finder edge and push it down very little. After that was done you need to reinstall the bulb and check the output on a flat wall. DONT push it down all the way otherwise you will get a rainbow pattern above the cutoff step. It's kinda trail and error.....
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