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Rob_DESCENDANT 10-20-2010 01:16 AM

Descendant tC2 Turbo Video
 
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I figured some of the new tC2 people would enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xUdPhUn_g8

See you at SEMA!
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333WHP & 302TQ
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peeweezio 10-20-2010 01:35 AM

Good stuff, Rob!

I think the tC2 is going to be a hit at SEMA. Can't wait to order my tC2 in January...better late than never I supppose. :icon_headphones:

speedy000 10-20-2010 04:20 AM

sexy!:love:

DezodDon 10-20-2010 03:24 PM

Nice video. Did that car put down 200 whp stock? What is scion claiming at the crank with the new engine. I haven't even looked yet.

Nevermind, just looked it up, the rated it at 180hp and a whopping 10.4:1 compression. Holy ____!

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-20-2010 07:12 PM

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Scion rates the car at 180 but when we tested it at Church's Automotive on his DYNOPAK system and it made 198whp & 197tq and at after we boosted it at 8-9 psi it made 333whp & 302tq

STOCK...
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TURBO...
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tcturbo07 10-21-2010 01:46 AM

awesome power on just 8-9psi

tcturbo07 10-21-2010 01:51 AM

Do you think the tC2 can make 350whp safely?

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Superpickel 10-21-2010 02:59 AM

Like the design drawing. When will the spoiler be fabed. Holding out on buying a spoiler because I didn't like the lip spoiler option.

crush02342002 10-21-2010 06:17 PM

I have to admit im overwhelmed by the numbers put down but i guess chalk it up to a slightly larger engine and high comp. Nice work guys!!!!

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-21-2010 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by Superpickel (Post 3708504)
Like the design drawing. When will the spoiler be fabed. Holding out on buying a spoiler because I didn't like the lip spoiler option.

Wing is being installed today & I'll post pictures as soon as we get it complete.

fewjative 10-21-2010 08:31 PM

stop with the teasers, we want full coverage lol!

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-21-2010 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by tcturbo07 (Post 3708451)
Do you think the tc2 can make 350whp safely?

Oh yeah...350 EZ!! Just need a clutch first!

crush02342002 10-21-2010 09:56 PM

i got a chance to drive a second gen, customer of mine just got one and brought it over, i absolutly hate the clutch. its way way too soft and peddle has too much play in it.

rwdjones07 10-21-2010 10:19 PM

I think the reason the stock dyno numbers are so high is Dynapack I'm not saying that Scion did not underate engine just that it may be 10-15hp less.because Dynapack read off the hub so its always a tiny bit higher. Only reason I like Mustang Dynos better is Mustang Dyno's require you
to manually enter vehicle weight and environmental conditions. Therefore either inflating or deflating dyno numbers are possible. The real benefit to the Mustang type Dynos are their ability to put a load on the car and as others have said, simulate real world driving conditions for tuning purposes.

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peeweezio 10-21-2010 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by rwdjones07 (Post 3709036)
i think the reason the stock dyno numbers are so high is dyno pack im not saying that scion didnot underate engine just that it may be 10-15hp less.because dyno pack read off the hub so its always a tiny bit higher...Only reason i like mustang dynos better is Mustang dyno's require you to manually enter vehicle weight and environmental conditions. Therefore either inflating or deflating dyno numbers are possible. The real benefit to the Mustang type dynos are their ability to put a load on the car and as others have said, simulate real world driving conditions for tuning purposes.


Ahh, you must work for Mustang? :)

rwdjones07 10-21-2010 10:44 PM

Naw I've just been around a lot tuned cars..and different Dynos..:icon_smile: and different drivetrain losses.

I prefer Dynojets...over either

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johnhawkins 10-21-2010 11:13 PM

Isnt the higher compression worse for boosted applications though?

rwdjones07 10-21-2010 11:42 PM


Originally Posted by johnhawkins (Post 3709073)
Isnt the higher compression worse for boosted applications though?

Yes that's y the Psi is so low and the also cause of the clutch slippin prbly but u never push it past whats healthy for it.supercharger are boosted on Mustangs add from factory on a GT with 11 something compression its all in the tune and how good it is. U can blow a engine on psi with forged internals
if the person doesn't know what they are doing.which is no where near the case here....Great job, Rob and Descendant, very good. I just wanna say this made my want to actually buy a 2011 tC. This and the Five Axis Lip Kit will be buying in 6 months after ankle heals. I know I'll be a happy customer :biggrin:

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Rob_DESCENDANT 10-22-2010 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by johnhawkins (Post 3709073)
Isnt the higher compression worse for boosted applications though?

In theory yes, but a good engine builder would tell you its all in the tuning.

For example...our best & most power full 4 cylinder race motors run 13:1 compression on methanol @ 80psi of boost.

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-22-2010 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by rwdjones07 (Post 3709100)
GREAT JOB ROB AND DESCENDANT VERY GOOD I JUST WANNA SAY THIS MADE MY WANT TO ACTUALLY BUY A 2011 TC

Thank you pal, I do too!

johnhawkins 10-22-2010 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DESCENDANT (Post 3709346)
In theory yes, but a good engine builder would tell you its all in the tuning.

For example...our best & most power full 4 cylinder race motors run 13:1 compression on methanol @ 80psi of boost.


Thats pretty redic! Just curious - made great power at 8 psi

rwdjones07 10-23-2010 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rob_DESCENDANT (Post 3709346)
In theory yes, but a good engine builder would tell you its all in the tuning.

For example...our best & most power full 4 cylinder race motors run 13:1 compression on methanol @ 80psi of boost.

Hey thats what i said lol.. like i said someone can blow a engine on 1 psi..so its all in the tune and i believe you guys to be some of the best of the best in tuning and building can not wait for the other parts you guys are going to make..hint hint burnt tip TI turboback exhaust *wink wink*:icon_mrgreen:

rwdjones07 10-23-2010 02:23 AM

:eyes: OMG 80psi SWEET lol



Originally Posted by Rob_DESCENDANT (Post 3709346)
In theory yes, but a good engine builder would tell you its all in the tuning.

For example...our best & most power full 4 cylinder race motors run 13:1 compression on methanol @ 80psi of boost.


chintastictc 10-23-2010 02:21 PM

whats up with the side mount intercooler? cant fit up front?

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-23-2010 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by chintastictc (Post 3710096)
whats up with the side mount intercooler? cant fit up front?

tC2 kit has side mount or front mount option.

I'll post pictures soon.

chintastictc 10-24-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DESCENDANT (Post 3710304)
tC2 kit has side mount or front mount option.

I'll post pictures soon.

cool...cuz a front mount would look sick on these....im considering getting one of these or an 07 sti....leaning more towards the sti tho lol

rwdjones07 10-25-2010 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by chintastictc (Post 3710526)
cool...cuz a front mount would look sick on these....im considering getting one of these or an 07 sti....leaning more towards the sti tho lol

if you can afford the sti there should be no thinking go sti all the way but if your lookin for something that other sti's and evo's and suck will come up next to you and think your slow and you smoke them watching there face expression is priceless im goin to pick one of these just becuz i wanna be different and have something tht many people think itsnt turboed just so i can blow there doors off imo..im tell u rite now though subbies run into alot broken issues and boost leaks my cuzin owns a heavy modded wrx and everyother week something is coming off or being fixed but there great cars when they working fine.. if u have no need for awd then get the tc and just limited boost in the 1st&2nd gear with the boost box and ull be fine:relief:

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-26-2010 10:58 AM

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Here is some pictures of both of the new 2011 Scion tC DESCENDANT Turbo kit intercooler set-up's.

Stealth Side mount intercooler
Attachment 71520
Attachment 71521

Front Mount Intercooler

Attachment 71522
Attachment 71523
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For now, we will be offering both versions of new 2011 Scion tC turbo kit. We feel this should satisfy almost all desires until the CARB version of the kit is released.

For more details please call us at:

WORLD Racing / DESCENDANT
310.522.8900

Domo 10-26-2010 11:30 AM

that looks great

bdis3 10-26-2010 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by rwdjones07 (Post 3711206)
im tell u rite now though subbies run into alot broken issues and boost leaks my cuzin owns a heavy modded wrx and everyother week something is coming off or being fixed

No offense, but this is probably your "cuzin's" fault. Unless your making 380whp on stock pistons there shouldn't be a problem with anything in those cars. With quality parts there shouldn't be a problem. At all. Unless you are making big power.

rwdjones07 10-26-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_DESCENDANT (Post 3711755)
Here is some pictures of both of the new 2011 Scion tC DESCENDANT Turbo kit intercooler set-up's.

Stealth Side mount intercooler
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/fabworx/side1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/fabworx/side.jpg

Front Mount Intercooler

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3...orx/FMIC-1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/fabworx/fmic1.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k37/fabworx/fmic2.jpg

For now, we will be offering both versions of new 2011 Scion tC turbo kit. We feel this should satisfy almost all desires until the CARB version of the kit is released.

For more details please call us at:

WORLD Racing / DESCENDANT
310.522.8900

Anyone heat soak from the side mount and wats the core on the front mount and hp rating on the fmic can this one handle 600hp without major soak im not going for 600 but i want breathing room im lookin for 460-70whp when im all done and happy :icon_biggrin: but that front mouth looks like it just belongs there lol scion shouldve made it factory lol with that mean looking front it screaming boost!!! Great Job:clap:

rwdjones07 10-26-2010 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by bdis3 (Post 3711776)
No offense, but this is probably your "cuzin's" fault. Unless your making 380whp on stock pistons there shouldn't be a problem with anything in those cars. With quality parts there shouldn't be a problem. At all. Unless you are making big power.

oo believe me there the best parts..and i havent met anyone that doesnt have problems all the time with there subbie.like i said there never huge issues..but hey its his car not mine lol subbies are just tempermental one day they like something next they dont..but hey it all love and war with boosted cars anyway 8)

Edit:and he never listens to me anyway lol itll break good enough soon and he'll listen he just always trying keep up with me and my mr2 lol which will never happen

highvoltage1 10-26-2010 05:41 PM

That side mount has to be more limited in power no? what are the flow raties on hp for each IC?

chintastictc 10-27-2010 09:45 AM

Nice...sorry if this was asked already but, what are you guys tuning the tC with? What engine management?

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-27-2010 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by chintastictc (Post 3712636)
Nice...sorry if this was asked already but, what are you guys tuning the tC with? What engine management?

AEM FIC with PNP harness adapter

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-27-2010 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by highvoltage1 (Post 3711985)
That side mount has to be more limited in power no? what are the flow raties on hp for each IC?

Yes, the side mount intercooler core is rated a lower than the front mount intercooler core due to size & depth.

From Spearco, the side mount core is estimated to cool 400 WHP where as the front mount core is rated 500WHP...either way perfect for street / strip use.

DezodDon 10-27-2010 06:40 PM

IMO the side mount would be my preferred choice so long as the air flow to it was not blocked. A vertical flow intercooler is more efficient than a horizontal flow and one that has air traveling twice the full length of the core.

That side mount has to provide some great spool.

rwdjones07 10-28-2010 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by DezodDon (Post 3712913)
IMO the side mount would be my preferred choice so long as the air flow to it was not blocked. A vertical flow intercooler is more efficient than a horizontal flow and one that has air traveling twice the full length of the core.

That side mount has to provide some great spool.

but the heat soak on this on a side mount has to be crazy coming from a turbo mr2 i no all bout heat soak itll be fine for every now and then boost pulls but beating on it the way its supposed to be would fill tht poor lil intercooler with heat soak and will cut power and fall off of power real quick fmic ftw side mount for side day tracking not even drag will hold the kind soak we talking bout just look at wats goin on in the world today with the weather u never no when its goin 80degrees out here no more or when its goin be humid just think bout real world things fmic would be best and always best unless ur goin for super sleeper job then u need to keep ur boc from goin off 8)

rwdjones07 10-28-2010 06:14 AM

rob is it a b.o.v or b.p.v and is it a tial wastegate extrenal and what flange for the turbo and what kinda upgraded turbos are we looking i really lookin into borg warner turbos im running one on my mr2 rite now :love::love::love::love:

Rob_DESCENDANT 10-28-2010 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by rwdjones07 (Post 3713416)
rob is it a b.o.v or b.p.v and is it a tial wastegate extrenal and what flange for the turbo and what kinda upgraded turbos are we looking i really lookin into borg warner turbos im running one on my mr2 rite now :love::love::love::love:

1st off, no heat soak because the wheel well is designed to have air relief which allows consistent air flow.

Bosch BPV included with the kits however there are a bunch of different replacement BOV's for that unit. We include the Bosch piece because is standard on a 911 Porsche :-)


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