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Old May 11, 2011 | 02:22 AM
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i have an automatic tc 2011 and i have seen a lot of tubos out there but i dont want to kill my motor with a turbo so i was looking for some superchargers. is trd making one or any other companies?
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No plans from what I've seen. And a turbo is no harder on your engine than a supercharger. Only difference is that an aftermarket turbo is harder on your warranty.
Old May 11, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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i have heard that the turbo kills your tranny and that that the if you put a turbo on an automatic it doesnt have a big enough blow off value so it back fires way easier than a supercharger. what do you guys say... turbo or supercharger?
Old May 11, 2011 | 04:44 AM
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The issues from either a supercharger or a turbocharger come from adding a ridiculous amount of hp to the car. The car (frame, transmission, clutch, seals, etc) was designed around the 180 stock hp. You double the car's hp without changing anything else, and you're putting a lot of strain on the components listed above. In general, how you double the power is less important.

In the tC1, the supercharged cars were more reliable than the turbo'd cars. Why? Because TRD was the only maker of the supercharger and TRD's supercharger only added about 50 hp, where the turbos generally added 100-150 hp. All else being equal, a turbo adding 50 hp would be just as reliable as a supercharger adding 50 hp.

Automatics add a new twist into the mix regardless of type of forced induction. I would say, with an AT, stick with naturally aspirated. Get an intake, exhaust, lightweight wheels and a lightweight crank pulley when ones becomes available and call it good. You can cut over 1 sec off your 0-60 time without sacrificing any reliability.
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Umm the TRD supercharger had a lot of issues and caused headaches with cars left and right. Plenty of people had problems...search around. Their have been many more success stories with turbo charging than the TERDcharger. The SC was just an inferior part altogether. It really was a gamble if it was going to last or not.

I know the tc2 is new so I have no real input on how much the auto transmission cam handle but the tc1 was able to take about 220whp before you needed to start worrying about your trans. Btw a.blow off valve shouldn't affect anything to do with your transmission so Idk where you picked that up from.

I highly doubt an intake, exhaust and pulleys would shave a full second off of 0-60...you are talking 10-15hp at best with mods like that.
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If anything get better tires.
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i already have bought the injen cold air intake. next i was thinking of exhaust. in what sequence should the tuning go?
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Their is no "sequence"...you have to figure out the route you want to go (stay n/a or go the forced induction route) for starters..which you will need to do some reading and research to figure out what what you will and wont need.
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Since Toyota planned on a SC from the get go, they designed tC1 chassis to handle at least 200 horsepower. Turbos have safely pushed 300 horsepower on stock internals; with the transmission being the weakest link at that point.

In general, Toyota over-designs their drivetrains, and it's a safe bet that tC2 can handle anything tC1 can (and more).

The enemy of auto-trannies is heat, and upgrades to synthetic fluids and the cooling system will at least extend the life of the tranny. Auto-trannies tend to have less than ideal gearing, and absorb about 10-15% of the engine's output. If your goal is power, bolt-ons aren't as good of an investment as forced induction.
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