If someone would make a supercharger for our car i would buy it over a turbo any day of the week. IMO a super charger sounds better and im not looking to add stupid power to my car. just enough to shut up si drivers who always want to race me. it would be like me wanting to race a 92 ford escort... completely pointless when you know your going to win every time and your car isn't even that fast lol

 

a little bird told me its too expensive to be produced for consumers. . .

 

what'd the bird have to say?

 

You need to read what the secret squirrel said to the little birdie...

 

not everybody wants a turbo...because not everybody wants all that power...or can handle it. anyway, superchargers on small engines have too little return on investment in terms of power. too much parasitic drain to generate any power.

also, look at the mini cooper S, superchargered vs turocharged. nearly identical power output, but the turbo is faster, better power band. and can go to higher power levels even easier.

 

highlight everything i wrote...

 

looking at photos of the engine bay, it would be way too much work to cram a supercharger in there for such a measily power increase. would have to move the battery elsewhere. fusebox gets in the way of the intake.

seriously, i went from a supercharger to a turbo, the turbo has way more power and a better powerband.

 

Not everyone wants to blow their ______ up in the long run so spending almost as much to get less will give a greater benefit in the long run. everyone can handle a turbo its the poor decision making that ends up putting a person into a ditch... or another car. Also there really is no such thing as an investment when talking about putting money into a car, there is no getting the money back. unless you buy a rare care and keep it stock and mint for 30 yrs until collectors will be shelling out cash for it

 

In your opinion, what specifically makes a turbo so risky compared to a supercharger? If TRD released a turbo setup for your car, would you trust it or still prefer a supercharger setup from say Greddy? Have you noticed the new trend toward small displacement turbocharged engines from OEMs? Do you know why you won't be seeing small displacement supercharged engines from them?

I believe that what Drax meant by return on investment was hp/tq per dollar and not resale value. That actually seemed crystal clear.

 

trust...there is more than enough room for a sc

 

I see what you did there

 

finally....someone gets it.

hint: don't stop at "me"

 

exactly, trust me, i'm a total loss service representative at a major insurance company, i know that adding crap to your car does nothing for the resale value. but when it comes to the dollar to giggle ratio, the turbo was a much better choice over my supercharger. if you're going to trust anybody on this, trust me, my tC has had both the TRD supercharger, and a turbotoyotas simple kit. my engine also currently has 90k miles. still running strong.

 

more power with better fuel economy than s/c offers, but i drive about 50,000 miles per year so that would be why a s/c would be better for me. just looking for a little more power out of my daily driver and i respect a nice turbo setup but until i have another vehicle for a dd im not looking for stupid power. besides if im going to run a turbo setup it seems to make more sense to buy a car that already comes stock with a turbo and just fine tune it. oh and to answer your question, anything trd comes out with i would trust more just for the fact it was made specifically for the car and is also backed by toyota so it will generally take away the headaches of putting on aftermarket parts.

 

@ kj: a little bird told me its too expensive to be produced for consumers. . .

 

When it comes to the question of which boost option is better for a TC, you should know best. I trust and agree with your opinion on this.

It does make a lot more sense to buy a factory turbo car but you bought a TC. For about the same money as a supercharger you could buy a really well designed and reliable turbo kit. I would trust kits from P-Tuning, Descendant, Dezod or Greddy. I'm not sure what's currently offered for the TC2.

I was in the same boat as you when TRD pulled the SC for my XB so I ended up with a mild turbo setup and love it. I'm only running 6 psi boost which nets ~225 whp/wtq with an auto trans. That's 100 more hp/tq than stock but hardly stupid power. I don't have any CEL problems and passed emissions testing in MD. It's been 100% reliable as a DD for over 2 years and 30,000 miles now.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that while many people install a turbo to make 400+ hp, you don't have to. I don't see any reason why a well-designed turbo kit running 5-8 psi couldn't be just as safe and reliable as a supercharger. $4000-5000 should cover everything you need. Obviously it's your car and your decision but I do think you might at least consider a turbo as an alternative to a SC that may never be available. A good alternative too, IMHO.

 

S/C has come a long way. Intercooling helps a good bit, that is starting to show up more on s/c setups.
On a different note.... Anyone seen first hand what the new Rotrex S/C are capable of? They are boasting about how efficient they are, almost no parasitic drag. They use a fluid drive setup. Very interesting stuff, google it and read up if you are curious.

 

I spoke the north american part devolper and they just canned the idea of the TRD turbo and they are going back to the drawing board on the s/c

 

Idk why, the majority would prefer turbo but w/e. A quality kit on low psi produecs plenty of power and reliability w/ the potential to give a lot more power. turbo kits are great because u change a few minor thigns to go up in power drasticly so urdont go replacing the whole kit.

 

Yea love the Xrunner if i was to get one id get the URD stage 3 supercharger they make, its a monster.

There products look like great quality.