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Old Aug 18, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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hmmmm....without raising the price, if it can be done a little more hp and torque, and longer gearing...slighty longer gearing. better gauges...and maybe a little wider stance.
Old Aug 18, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2fixA
1st: Keep the weight down, otherwise all other mods are moot
2nd: Increase power, either a higher compression ratio or actually making a low PSI turbo for this beautiful car.. like tbblizzard said, 20-30 hp would make a HUGE difference in this light/tiny car
3rd: 6 speed tranny out of the XRS/GT-S engine would be awesome (as would the engine) but I'm not sure how much additional weight it would add
4th: Suspension improvements like an independent rear suspension because there isn't much use in adding power if you can't get it to the ground
5th: 4 wheel disc brakes would be great, or at least parts available to do it with, from my research only a few cars have the hub size and center bore and rear discs to possibly pull parts from
6th: Cruise control would be nice, but I believe that is already an option for the 2005s?

THANKS FOR LENDING AN EAR!
Old Aug 18, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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have them add a high performance 4 cyclinder like the 2zz or 3sgte or 4ag.
Old Aug 18, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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Celica GT-S engine with a 6 speed!

I second that
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Its 5:30am here in madison wisconsin, i am just about to print this out and then be on my way to elmhurst IL, elhurst toyota. you may all be cofident that you ideas will make our 2nd generation xA even better than our first. I will let you all know how the trip goes. Once agian xA owners thanks for speaking your minds!
peace tjd!
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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Its 5:30am here in madison wisconsin, i am just about to print this out and then be on my way to elmhurst IL, elhurst toyota. you may all be confident that you ideas will make our 2nd generation xA even better than our first. I will let you all know how the trip goes. Once agian xA owners thanks for speaking your minds!
peace tjd!
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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why dont we try to put a supra engine in there!! i would put it in an xb though cuz i want an xb super bad!!!
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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cruise control is an option at least it was at my dealership.

• better A/C
• Moonroof
• More storage bins in the dash
• Ability to change the dash lights to something other than amber
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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be real, guys. how much you willing to pay for all these nice add on?serious, xA+1.8L corolla engine = corolla S, that's about 15k, anyone willing to pay for it? xA+1.8L celica engine+6 speeed tranny = corolla XRS, that's more than 18k!! at the price point, scion isn't going to sell a lot of those.

for me, I don't need power, bring the japanese 1.3L ist over here, and sell it for 1k less, i will buy it. or get a hybird version of xA, i will pay 17k for that.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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heh, a hybrid scion, that would be awesome.....cause no markup!! the prius is coming with a 4k markup, sometime a little less, sometime more.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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I really agree about making an AWD xA. Keep the weight down, as I feel like that is the xA's strongest point performace-wise. If it had an ind. rear suspension and a little more poweful engine, we would have a real platform for performance in a really good looking car. I would buy that over an Impreza or an Evo any day! Imagine the recognition Scion would get in WRC!
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i was actually thinking about that. having a car with a bunch of potential, like and awd, maybe a little higher displacement engine xA. that would cool.
Old Aug 22, 2004 | 04:17 AM
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I'd like to see a Hybrid version!
Old Aug 22, 2004 | 05:52 AM
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-glovebox box can be closed with key
-better A/C (starlet 1.3 has better a/c than xA!!)
-steering must tilt down more
-option for moonroof or sunroof
-better gear system (improve shifting and add 6th gear or better overdrive)
-fog lights
-little bigger fuel tank if possible
-hidden integrated antenna
-option for replacing the ovenlight box cover with an LCD screen
-option for add led flashing lights for the sunroof or moonroof from inside that works with audio HU like equlizer or something like that
-option for trd rims 17" because 19" is little big
-option for adding digital gauges oil temp or voltage level or airflow meter or speed or anything else

sorry for asking to much just ideas :oops: :D
Old Aug 23, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Just so everyone knows....

The meeting has already happened. The author of this thread has printed it out and taken it to the meeting.

But please feel free to continue to brain storm "The Perfect xA" :D
Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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yes keep posting your ideas about the 2nd gen xa. the design team from japan were thrilled when i handed them the the print out of your posts. "this is just the kind of input we need" they said!!!!
they also need to know what you love about your xa right now!!!!
i showed them this thread so now they no how to get to it pluss they are probably spying on it from time to time!! so please continue to brain storm!!!!! I do have there email so i will keep them up to date on this thread!!!!

As for how things went go to www.xscionwi.com and look in reviews. there you will find pics and an overview of what went on!!!!!!!!
peace tjd!!!!!!!!!
Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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I have suggestion:

Borrow the IS300 fog light lenses, so we have nice yellow fog lights. Cheap, effective, and already in the Toyota parts inventory.
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Another suggestion:

This suggestion isn't just specifically for the xA, but all of Toyota's cars. . .

We all know that alarms are meant as a deterent for theft, but it rarely stops a thief from smashing a window and grabbing some CD's. . .
I would like to suggest an uprade to the Scion Security system, as well as all Toyota's, what will help to move these alarms off the shelves and derive extra profit off these already highly profitable items.

We need interior protection: a well designed (cheap to manufacture) interior deterrent. It can't be lethal or dangerous either, so I suggest an audible deterrent. I high pitched, high volume alarm siren(1 or more) placed within the cabin, that activated upon intrusion. To prevent accidents, a two stage arming system can be used, via a code on the remote key fob, the door lock, or maybe an interior switch(which is then disabled after arming). Designing such a system would be VERY inexpensive, VERY effective, and would be a VERY strong selling point.
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by djct_watt
Another suggestion:

This suggestion isn't just specifically for the xA, but all of Toyota's cars. . .

We all know that alarms are meant as a deterent for theft, but it rarely stops a thief from smashing a window and grabbing some CD's. . .
I would like to suggest an uprade to the Scion Security system, as well as all Toyota's, what will help to move these alarms off the shelves and derive extra profit off these already highly profitable items.

We need interior protection: a well designed (cheap to manufacture) interior deterrent. It can't be lethal or dangerous either, so I suggest an audible deterrent. I high pitched, high volume alarm siren(1 or more) placed within the cabin, that activated upon intrusion. To prevent accidents, a two stage arming system can be used, via a code on the remote key fob, the door lock, or maybe an interior switch(which is then disabled after arming). Designing such a system would be VERY inexpensive, VERY effective, and would be a VERY strong selling point.
That would be nice.
Pros:
Better Protection.

Cons:
Ear Plugs.
Deaf Theifs.

Also once the theif is gone & your not around it would keep making noise & drive more ppl crazy. I think a loackable storage container would be much better. Also a system that when a window is broken would cut power to the whole car. The only way to restore power would be with a special key that is only ment to restore this power.
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 01:59 AM
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Yeah, I agree that lockable storage would be nice. . .
also realize that smart petty thieves do not exist.
The risk and the gains from petty theft are tiny, and no smart criminal would do this, let alone be smart enough to carry ear plugs. Secondly, factory alarms are much less prone to "false alarms" and would only go off when an actual intrusion happens, vs cheap aftermarket alarms or ones that are badly installed.

Smart thieves are the ones that go for the real deal car thefts. . . talkin the whole car. And at that point, there's not much you can do to defeat them, no system is 100% effective, I mean they can always steal a tow truck, wear some cheap uniforms and tow your car away, and nobody will be the wiser. . .

But on cheaper vehicles, your more likely to have your windows broken, and small items stolen. . .



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