Air filter& Power
I don't think you gain a thing. This is my opinion. The engine is designed for power and ecnomy in a small package. A restrictive air cleaner design would -be stupid- for Toyota to put on this engine.
"sell the sizzle, not the steak" is how all aftermarket parts makers -must- market their goods. K&N is an excellent, respected company with fine filters. But is an aftermarket filter system reallly any better than stock?
I have not seen dyno tests nor a/b comparisons. Who has? Word of mouth subjective judgements do not count for much more than mental excitements.
"kis"
"sell the sizzle, not the steak" is how all aftermarket parts makers -must- market their goods. K&N is an excellent, respected company with fine filters. But is an aftermarket filter system reallly any better than stock?
I have not seen dyno tests nor a/b comparisons. Who has? Word of mouth subjective judgements do not count for much more than mental excitements.
"kis"
Originally Posted by SciFly
I have not seen dyno tests nor a/b comparisons. Who has? Word of mouth subjective judgements do not count for much more than mental excitements.
"kis"
I just bought a K&N Aitfilter for my xb... not for power but because it will be ultimately cheaper than buying and throwing away the origional paper style elements.
Walt
Originally Posted by Newtmaker
Originally Posted by SciFly
I have not seen dyno tests nor a/b comparisons. Who has? Word of mouth subjective judgements do not count for much more than mental excitements.
"kis"
I just bought a K&N Aitfilter for my xb... not for power but because it will be ultimately cheaper than buying and throwing away the origional paper style elements.
Walt
see this thread
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4168
btw this should be moved to POWER HUNGRY since it has nothing to do with wheels
Originally Posted by Boxer Rebellion
That thread is for whole intake setups, not drop-in filters for the stock box. I've seen subjective reviews of those but nothing proven.
i thought u were saying that there were no proven results for intake systems... now that i see you are talking about drop ins only.. cant help on that one
Yes, we love the looks and we love to pour money into our cars' appearance items. That's ONE thing, this emotional impact and so on.
It's another thing to "justify" the expenses by believing advertiser's promises and users' -subjective- claims "oooh its so much better now!".
Sellers do ovestate and users do suffer the Placebo Effect (I know, I've had that many times, myself!)
Sci coins a new saying:
take a blank reality check along with your checkbook
It's another thing to "justify" the expenses by believing advertiser's promises and users' -subjective- claims "oooh its so much better now!".
Sellers do ovestate and users do suffer the Placebo Effect (I know, I've had that many times, myself!)
Sci coins a new saying:
take a blank reality check along with your checkbook
That said, and before this thread gets too far off-topic, I have a speed secret (ha ha)
I will be speeding along faster than any of you here, very shortly, without touching a thing under the hood.
I'm putting on faster tires later this week
I say with a a friendly nudge, but not blowing smoke: "eat my dust"
I will be speeding along faster than any of you here, very shortly, without touching a thing under the hood.
I'm putting on faster tires later this week
I say with a a friendly nudge, but not blowing smoke: "eat my dust"
To think that Toyota only uses the best of everything is a stretch. There is always a balance point between best price and best quality.
One of the other selling points of a car is cost of maintenance. Cheap disposable filter or quality reusable? Which one fits the scenario better? Many people wouldn't take the time to clean a reusable filter anyway.
One of the other selling points of a car is cost of maintenance. Cheap disposable filter or quality reusable? Which one fits the scenario better? Many people wouldn't take the time to clean a reusable filter anyway.
imho when i switched to the injen sri from the stock air box with the k&n drop in filter i felt no change in the power band. just change in the sound
the sri was the last power mod i did after the header and the trd muffler
the sri was the last power mod i did after the header and the trd muffler
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