E.L.Prototypes Turbo Kit
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
We will take some pics of the kit installed. Sorry that we havent done that yet. We have been trying so hard to get it completed that pics were the last thing on our minds. We will take them today. We will not have a break down pic yet because we would have to disassenble the car. There is a link on image station of the car. We will find it and link it.
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it's just over 18psi.
the 4efte can easily run 20psi on stock internals and it puts down 135-145hp
dude, you can't compare the two because which of us will be running 18psi to get 160hp. there is no way we could hold that with SO MANYmods in comparisson to the 1 or 2 mods the 4efte would need to hold that.
dyno the 1nzfe and then tell us what you get. don't give people high hopes with apples and oranges
the 4efte can easily run 20psi on stock internals and it puts down 135-145hp
dude, you can't compare the two because which of us will be running 18psi to get 160hp. there is no way we could hold that with SO MANYmods in comparisson to the 1 or 2 mods the 4efte would need to hold that.
dyno the 1nzfe and then tell us what you get. don't give people high hopes with apples and oranges
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OK......................
Lets start off with the Corolla question. Not quite sure which parts your refering to but lets give a reply.
Example:we have a few parts for corollas all years. We have headers for the 03 corolla.....everyone ask for them, we made them, we stock them, we have sold 3 of them since jan 03. headers for 92-97 corolla 1.6/1.8, sold 5 the whole time we have been in buisness. We have tested the waters on turbo kits but no takers. Corolla clubs have approched us with group buys and failed miserably buy ordering a large quantity of custom parts and not coming up with payment (everyone backs out last minute). The intakes are all anyone buys. At this time the corolla is not at the top of the list. Any further questions about this, pm us, lets not waist this boards time.
As far as the 4e is concerned, we were only showing the potential of the turbo and the engine management not the 4e. We know they are not the same engine nor did we imply it was. Just fyi; I, the owner, have been building 4e/5e combos since 1992, and the 2e/3e combos since 1987. I feel confident enough to say what I said about the bottom end strengths. I also own an EP82.
So now that this has been said, if you wish to pm us, great. As for what this thread was originally about, we will continue the updates. We will continue answering questions about the turbo kit and its posibilities. If the board does not want us to do this, pm us and we will just finish the kit and tell you its ready.
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Eric Lapka
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Lets start off with the Corolla question. Not quite sure which parts your refering to but lets give a reply.
Example:we have a few parts for corollas all years. We have headers for the 03 corolla.....everyone ask for them, we made them, we stock them, we have sold 3 of them since jan 03. headers for 92-97 corolla 1.6/1.8, sold 5 the whole time we have been in buisness. We have tested the waters on turbo kits but no takers. Corolla clubs have approched us with group buys and failed miserably buy ordering a large quantity of custom parts and not coming up with payment (everyone backs out last minute). The intakes are all anyone buys. At this time the corolla is not at the top of the list. Any further questions about this, pm us, lets not waist this boards time.
As far as the 4e is concerned, we were only showing the potential of the turbo and the engine management not the 4e. We know they are not the same engine nor did we imply it was. Just fyi; I, the owner, have been building 4e/5e combos since 1992, and the 2e/3e combos since 1987. I feel confident enough to say what I said about the bottom end strengths. I also own an EP82.
So now that this has been said, if you wish to pm us, great. As for what this thread was originally about, we will continue the updates. We will continue answering questions about the turbo kit and its posibilities. If the board does not want us to do this, pm us and we will just finish the kit and tell you its ready.
Thank You,
Eric Lapka
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Originally Posted by CivicEater
hope this "kit" doesn't go the way of all those corolla parts promised over the last 2 years that never "got out of production"
I have been watchin this thread since it started and have noticed how quick you are to respond with as many answers as you could to help us all out and keep us notified. Keep up the good work and keep us posted. I know you have some potential buyers, i hope you actually sell some kits if they do go into production.
good luck,
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So far you have been a great guy in keeping everyone updated on your progress and I congradulate you on that. All I was saying was that if you put the same turbo and management on a celica for instance and put down 250hp, how are we suppose to compare that to our cars? The only way to compare the horsepower would be if you put it on an echo, not your friends fixed up tercel.
thanx for the info on the 4efte because I was thinkin on duin that swap into a paseo myself and i was only hoping for 180hp.
thanx for the info on the 4efte because I was thinkin on duin that swap into a paseo myself and i was only hoping for 180hp.
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Hello again,
Well here are some specs if really want to compare.
the figures will be in millimeters. Bore X Stroke.
4e = 74 x 77.4 1331cc
5e = 74 x 87 1456cc
1nz = 75 x 84.7 1497cc
4e has high volumetrics due to high rev capabilities but needed a turbo version to get torque.
5e has lower volumetrics due to its stroke, but provides good torque.
1nz has the best of both, high volumetrics (VVT-i)and more displacement.
The stroke is in between the two keeping the best rod ratio for its narrow block and offset crankshaft.
These engines are close to the same displacement and volumetrics, the 1nz being the higher of the three.
FYI, We wouldnt use that turbo on a Celica, it would be too small.
ELP
Well here are some specs if really want to compare.
the figures will be in millimeters. Bore X Stroke.
4e = 74 x 77.4 1331cc
5e = 74 x 87 1456cc
1nz = 75 x 84.7 1497cc
4e has high volumetrics due to high rev capabilities but needed a turbo version to get torque.
5e has lower volumetrics due to its stroke, but provides good torque.
1nz has the best of both, high volumetrics (VVT-i)and more displacement.
The stroke is in between the two keeping the best rod ratio for its narrow block and offset crankshaft.
These engines are close to the same displacement and volumetrics, the 1nz being the higher of the three.
FYI, We wouldnt use that turbo on a Celica, it would be too small.
ELP
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Ya, I know it is crazy small, that's y I sed "for instance," as in comparing apples and oranges. I actually just ordered a used stock supra turbo for my 4efte project off the supra forums. i would like however to come by your shop and discuss some options. I live like 3 streets away.
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I'd be happy to help update your site, I've been dying to see the full list of options... I don't want to go forced induction but your parts would be seriously interesting to me for reinforcing the engine. Give us updates when you can, they are much welcomed!
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Hello Everyone,
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi
. We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.
ELP
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi
. We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.ELP
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
Hello Everyone,
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi . We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.
ELP
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi
. We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.ELP
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
Hello Everyone,
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi . We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.
ELP
The clutch is in. We were surprised that the stock clutch didnt look bad. It had spun because it had some hot spots. The clamping pressure was very weak and could not handle the torque. We were running 6psi before the clutch install. Now that we have the the new clutch in, we have 8psi
. We will begin the dyno sesion this week to finalize the EFI. The car is off on a road trip to Santa Barabra for a car show so the clutch should be broke in by the time it gets back.ELP
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Originally Posted by HotBox
Originally Posted by Wraith
I want to turbo but I love my gas mileage...
yes super cause i have an auto
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Originally Posted by HotBox
Originally Posted by Wraith
I want to turbo but I love my gas mileage...
yes super cause i have an auto