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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
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EFI tuning is been done before were off to the dyno. If all goes well we will have numbers by the weekend.


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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wraith
LOL... dude, I'm getting 450 to 500 miles to a tank with my Echo... And with the Gas prices now, I'm really happy I have my echo...
how the hell? i'm getting anywhere from 250-275 a tank in my xa... got a heavy foot. but 450-500? you get a bigger tank put in, lol. i thought that's what the hybrids got on gas milage.
Old Apr 15, 2004 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Wraith
LOL... dude, I'm getting 450 to 500 miles to a tank with my Echo... And with the Gas prices now, I'm really happy I have my echo...
how the hell? i'm getting anywhere from 250-275 a tank in my xa... got a heavy foot. but 450-500? you get a bigger tank put in, lol. i thought that's what the hybrids got on gas milage.
well, you can ask Eric ... He can attest to my obsesion to gas mileage.LOL

I have the s-afc and I'm running the engine -12% fuel from 2000rpm to 3000rpms then it goes to -11%fuel from 3500 to 4500rpm and then it ends in -10% fuel from 4500 to redline... I personnally dont care if I blow my motor... The Echo,Xb, Xa motors are sooo freaking cheap you can pick up low mileage unit with tranny for $700 bucks... Thats cheap...
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Hello,

Well here it is. The first test. EFI not totally done yet, needs more tuning.
We dynoed on the same dyno the intake shootout was done. We used scionic's baseline to compare before and after.

Results: 144 WHP and 150 WTQ and were not done yet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is the link

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287094563
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Nice results. Love to see it when the tuning is finished. If the drivetrain loss is 15% than that would be 170hp the engine's putting out. More than the new Civic Si. Combine that with the fact that the xB weighs about 400lbs less......easy low 15 second right now.
Old Apr 21, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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In case imagestation is give you crap...
Old May 28, 2004 | 05:23 AM
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please, please, please, get some pricing up soon.

this will make or break my decision on whether or not i purchase an xB.
Old May 30, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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What happened to this topic??? Anyone heard any news?!?!?!
Old May 30, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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get some kinda pricing JEEZ!!!! i want to turbo my box and have a happy blow of sound when i shift (SCHEEWWWWW)

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Old May 30, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Release a damn kit already, the demand is here.
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Sign me up please....
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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3 months and still counting
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Any information would be appreciated...it's been 3 months, like others have said.

PRICE/UPDATES--please don't leave us hanging like everyone else.
Old Jun 2, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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It's still not released, and neither is any other turbo kit so stop bickering. They only have the one kit on the xA and that is not their car. That is a customer's car so to do what ever is needed also depends on the owner of the vehicle.

I was there yesterday to get a turbo manifold made but they have a full lot of cars that need to be finished and don't have enough man power to do it.

Are you guys hiring...basic automotive skills? I can't fabricate worth a ____ but if it's a bolt on kit, wiring, or swaps, I can help around.
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Well i'm interested but... Where are those other items that EL was talking about? He gave the throttle body a 2 week time about 2 months ago. The turbo seems cool, but with no pricing guide who cares. Also that dyno sheet shows an awful issue with fuel managment.

Excuses like a lot full of cars, it's a customers car, man power. None of those matter. If you're going to quote times, then meet them already. You don't see that we're interested? Put some over time in. Hire some people. Work with a local dealership. MAKE SOMETHING ALREADY

Don't talk about it, be about it.

Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Hello all,

Heres the scoop. Fuel managment is not the problem. Problem is fuel management that will not crank up the price of the kit beyond your wallets. From the polls we have taken and from talking to a lot of Scion owners over the last year, its seems like all anyone wants to spend is about $3000.00. Our competition is quoting 5K and everyone is is passing on the product. We could release the kit in a week but the boost would be lower and so would the HP numbers. It would be on stock management and make no more or no lees than the Blitz S/C. Those dyno numbers are with stock injectors with our new management we are working on. We released those numbers at the request of this board. None of our competitors have done this. Your right, the fuel numbers are not good, hense the reason the kit is not in your hands yet. When they are good, we will release a new sheet for everyone to see. Affordable power is the goal here without blowing your motor.

The throttle body issue was discussed in the thread in power hungry. When we make the new manifold we will post it.

Yes, it is a customers car. It is here almost every day. Its worked on and tested on a daily basis after hours (over time).

We want to assure you its coming. Thats why we have posted what we are doing, dyno results and going to shows and meets with the car. We know you want it, thats why we are building it. Sorry the time frame has gone beyond what we quoted but its time that will make a solid kit that everyone can enjoy.


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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:45 PM
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sweeet

take your time, i needa save up anyways, haha. so what all are you including in the kit now? it sounds like a lot of things :D
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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I really want to put one on my Auto xB. What are the recomended upgrades? Is it only the clutch or what? thanx for putting your time and effort into this. I think we are all really excited about this new product. :D :D :D
Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ELPrototypes
Hello all,

Heres the scoop. Fuel managment is not the problem. Problem is fuel management that will not crank up the price of the kit beyond your wallets. From the polls we have taken and from talking to a lot of Scion owners over the last year, its seems like all anyone wants to spend is about $3000.00. Our competition is quoting 5K and everyone is is passing on the product. We could release the kit in a week but the boost would be lower and so would the HP numbers. It would be on stock management and make no more or no lees than the Blitz S/C


ELP
why not make stages?

Stage 1 stock fuel management
Stage 2 upgraded fuel Management
stage 3 To the moon!!

just some random thoughts :D
Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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Where is this competitor that is making a kit for $5k that everyone is passing up on? Man if there was a turbo kit of ANY kind out there making any decently respectable numbers, i'd be on it. But there isn't. Only thing we have is false hope. I'm inches away from going to Boost Logic and having a complete custom turbo kit made, ____ the price.



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