I have about 3800 saved up sofar for a future swap for my xa. Was just curious what engines would put some ___ behind my car. Iv been skiming some threads about it but nothing too appealing poped out at me. I know its prolly going to cost me alot more than 4k for something with some horsepower but its a down the road project not something for tomorow.

 

It's more worthwhile to build and turbo your 1.5L. A lot of swaps have been talked about but not many actually completed. Props to those who have though.

 

how about a turbo hayabusa motor!

or maybe a H22 honda moter or b18 turbo lol

 

Well I wouldnt be doing the swap myself but howmuch HP could you get out of a lil engine like ours. I was thinkin of goin to a 6 cili

 

Word is that hayabusa motor gets 700+ horsepower great idea!

 

Depends how far you want to go, how much you want to spend. A swap would be very expensive (6 cyl) if it would even fit. For 3-4k you could double your stock power, thats without building obviously.

 

If I could get to 300hp for under 8k would be wonderfull. But I figure swapping engines and modding that one would be the way to go.

 

Dude, samxa, we just talked about this. You don't know cars. Which is fine, but you're heading in the wrong direction here. Swapping an xA motor is no good. First off, you're engine bay is a joke. If you were to do a swap, I would only recommend a honda motor. B18/B20/H22/K24 and then turbo that. You cannot go 6 cyclinder. If you dropped that into your car, your car would have to become a race car. You'd have to completely change everything to make it all run. Bad idea. Plus 6 cyclinders aren't meant to mod really. It's the four cyclinders that are meant to mod. Yeah 1.5L is small, but do what those guys said, build the motor ($2500) and then turbo the shish out of it (another $4000). But then other things like your stock clutch, you'll need an LSD because that weak transmission is going to snap your first launch. You could possibly snap your driveshaft too, I've seen that happen. I really wouldn't recommend all this. 300 hp for an xA is a joke. That will be wayyyy more power than you'll ever need. Don't even talk about 700 hp, you're xA's chassis will warp itself inside out not to mention the damage you'll do. Get your intake and your exhaust and race your little friends around town because you don't want to come into the world we have created. The only reason is because you don't know cars and this is plainly you're only car. Never make a daily driver swap... ever. You know what I'm saying?

 

Wow why so much hate for this guy? Yeah maybe he doesn't know much about cars but you don't have to try and shoot this guy down. You could of just said a V-6 would not work and buy a turbo like everyone else said. If he doesn't wanna believe anyone then he can find out for himself. Another thing..... what makes you god of the tuning world? Sure you may know what your talking about but you act like you started the whole movement. My advice to the guy who wants to modify his xA...... trade it in and buy a used Mustang GT leave it stock and race this guy and show him "a world you don't want to come into".

 

First off... calm down. Second, I have talked to Sam about this before in other threads and I was completely blown away by him creating a new one asking more things that he isn't ready for. I think you are reading my quote wrong. I'm not hating on him at all. I want him to make the most educated decision he can. I'm not hostile or anything. I'm being helpful. Telling him to turbo his 1.5L isn't helping him. So I spent the time explaining why and why not to do things. I'm not giving him misguided advice like everyone else. I'm being thorough. And no, I didn't start the movement, but I want him to know that he'll more than likely fall on his face with these big plans for his xA and 10 grand later I didn't want that to happen. It's a lot of money and a lot of knowledge. If he had friends that were big into this then he wouldn't be asking us. So it is clear that he hasn't a clue to what to do which just isn't going to work. Research as much as you can online and then ask us questions about things you found. That's what I want him to do. He hasn't done that yet. That's a good way to start learning about tuning. Build on that. Read lots of threads in the F/I section and learn the trade as much as you can and ask questions. He wants a V6 in his xA, he obviously needs some guidence and help. So yeah, calm down, I'm being helpful, and not hostile.

 

I understand what your trying to do. Your last comment sounded like you where trying to help him/ be a *ick. Your advice is good but if he isn't willing to listen then let him fall flat on his face. My serious advice for this guy would be if your looking for power then don't start on a 4 cylinder platform. Sure you can make respectable power out of a 4 cylinder but 700 hp is very unrealistic unless you got about 30k in cash on hand. If you are going to daily drive this car then definetly don't go for big horsepower. Trust me I used to daily drive a Nissan 350Z and I hated the gas mileage it got and it didn't really make a lot of horsepower (all stock). The Scion tC is my first 4 cylinder car I have ever owned. I keep it around because it gets a lot better gas mileage than all the other cars I have owned. If you turbo your car you can almost double your horsepower and as long as you stay out of boost range you are not hurting your gas mileage. Like criminaltc said don't buy an economy car and expect to make big horsepower out of it. I suggest you trade in your xA and start with either a muscle car or Asian sports car. A good learning car would be a late 90's Honda Civic ( not a sports car but easy to work on and modify) A perfect muscle car would be a Mustang GT. Good Asian sports cars would be 350Z, Miata, Imprezza WRX STI or just the WRX, G35, Lancer Ralliart or Evo, and RX-8 (not very easy to modify). Heck even getting a Scion tC would be a much better option to tune than the xA. We are not trying to hate on your car just trying to make your realize that the xA is not a good tuning platform.

 

Dude the 700 hp was a joke, I find it hard u could get that power out of a 1200cc motor. and I am jist afrade to put real money into our little engine just to later realise that swapping wouldof made a world of difference in compairison. But I have my scion and a 06kia spectra. And mustsangs are rly not my kinda car.

 

dump the money into the kia keep the scion for the reliability

 

No swap in the xA will help you out. Not making fun of you but doing a V-6 swap in the xA is liking taking a Smart car and trying to stuff a big V-8 into it..... it just won't happen. Mustang's are not my cup of tea either but they make good horsepower. If you want more power your better off with a turbo and I bet you will be happy. If you don't want a turbo then I recommend doing bolt on parts such as CAI. You won't gain much with bolt on's but at least it's something. $3800 could also buy you a decent project car if you don't want to spend that money on the xA. I know for a fact you can get an early 90's Mazda Miata in good shape for that kind of money. I know this cause I own a 94 Mazda Miata. I bought mine for $2300 from a Mazda dealership a few years back and it was in excellent shape for the year and only had 116k miles on it. You can buy a turbo for these cars for around 1-3k and make really good horsepower. If thats not your cup of tea then you can shove V-8's into those little cars and with an LS2 you can keep up with a Ferrari. Don't belive me? Look it up on YouTube. Hope this helps you out and best of luck.

 

Well the realistic swap that works and I have seen done is the 3s-gte swap. In the Scion XD. Built M2motoring.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=191797

That might be your best bet. If you still want to swap

 

Build it, swaps are for Hondas.

 

i agree with criminaltc, these cars arent made for power. take the 4k and put it into suspension and find some curvy downhills to race your friends on. no matter how much power your engine has, your car can scoot on a downhill with a good suspension and blow away almost anything with a ton of power. the early street racers in Japan adjusted mainly driving habit and a little suspension tuning. the need for more power came when people started racing on straighter roads and uphills. i vote a good set of coilovers, rear sway bar, poly suspension bushings, light wheels, and good tires will net you way better results than any engine swap or bolt on, even a turbo, on the downhill.

 

Also agree with the above post. I had more fun in the corners then i ever did with my supercharger in a straight line.

 

if ur gonna do a motor swap won't the 1st gen 2.4L tC engine work?...

 

1zz or 2zz bolts up.

looks up canadian vitz rs comes with it all you need is ecu, motor, trans, and the oem motor mounts. DUN