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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 04:38 AM
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Im looking for headers and was wondering if anyone reccomended any.
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What's the price range and what is your existing setup on the i/h/e? Also, the xa/xb only have one header. I'm running a Weapon-R 4-2-1 and love it. Make sure you wrap it before installing.
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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how much are the weapon-R's? and what kinda gain are we lookin at in installing them, ive been looking into a new header lately. did you keep your original cams?
Old Jan 13, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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i have a factory JDM bB tubular manifold that i'm trying to sell...135 + shipping
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 03:49 AM
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im looking to spend no more than 200 but im also getting a custon 3inch straight pipe exhaust made from the mid-pipe back
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Originally Posted by BigJohnXa
im looking to spend no more than 200 but im also getting a custon 3inch straight pipe exhaust made from the mid-pipe back
why 3"? your just throwing away power...& just gaining weight
Old Jan 14, 2010 | 04:03 PM
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I have a Strup 4-1 header for sale. Old thread but still for sale. I could do $120 shipped, already boxed up.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=167759
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pm'd u about the headers
Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vettereddie
I have a Strup 4-1 header for sale. Old thread but still for sale. I could do $120 shipped, already boxed up.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=167759
There's your header BigJohnXa. Great header for a good price from an awesome guy nonetheless (props vettereddie).

As for the custom 3" exaust, forget it. You won't see any positive power gains and the turbulant airflow will only increase the sound while lowering backpressure and possibly dropping overall horsepower. It would be better to keep the stock exaust or have a custom 2.25-2.5" twin exaust run (higher airflow with similar backpressure). Without a resonator inline in a custom exaust, it would be loud after installing the Strup header.

Also, don't forget the wrap!

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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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thanks ill send the money tomorrow and i was thinking about just doing a 2inch straight pipe from the mid-pipe back
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Originally Posted by padillaXA
how much are the weapon-R's? and what kinda gain are we lookin at in installing them, ive been looking into a new header lately. did you keep your original cams?
I have not dyno'd (with all the other mods, I'm expecting close to 110whp if I did everything right). However, the low end torque/grunt with the 4-2-1 is impressive to say the least. I've added probably 160 pounds of sound deadening by itself, so the extra power was worth it. I spent 260 on that piece. Just make sure you have upgraded your intake and exhaust for the most efficient power gain. The cams are original.
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Originally Posted by spr0k3t

As for the custom 3" exaust, forget it. You won't see any positive power gains and the turbulant airflow will only increase the sound while lowering backpressure and possibly dropping overall horsepower. It would be better to keep the stock exaust or have a custom 2.25-2.5" twin exaust run (higher airflow with similar backpressure).
you don't know nothing about exhaust do you?

3" would actually increase backpressure do to the weakened exhaust pulse not being about to overpower the atmospheric pressure rushing back up the pipe.

you want a high flow velocity...no more then 250 ft/pr sec

105hp cars do not need anything bigger then 2"

& for the record, twin 2.25" is more area then a single 3" further hurting the situation

cars don't require "backpressure" to make power...but they require flow...& if you get the flow just right...you start to make that 5th engine cycle...the exhaust scalvaging during valve overlap would help produce more power by drawing in more of the air/fuel charge...too big of a pipe will let atmospheric pressure rush up into the combustion chamber & hinder the fresh air/fuel charge from entering...thus hurting power & torque

i can go on & on...
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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BTW that i might have came off sounding like a dick...wasn't trying to be mean, just trying to edjamucate ya'll
Old Jan 16, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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na its cool after thinking about it your right im most likely just gonna keep my axle-back exhaust
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