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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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my boys name is rothchild. and no hes not on the supra forums n what not he built the car for fun w/ his dad. his dad was a huge hotrod nut back then and got into japanese cars. his son followed suit w/ passion w/ cars but yeah hes not like a "big post *****" on supraforums.com or mkiv he browses but seldomly posts only when he puts up a WTB or for sale lol
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Sprockett
I would kill for 180hp. . . and I'm dead serious when I say that. . .
Then I'm sorry, but you have chosen the wrong car. You could sell your xA and buy a 1998 ITR with low miles, and have 195hp stock.

Oh well...I'm done.
Uh. . . HELLO! I was being sarcastic you fool! It's called a pun. . . kill. . . dead serious? Sheez louizzzz!!!!!

To put it in easy wording, I was saying that 180hp would be NICE, but is unlikely. I love my xA, underpowered and all. . . it's fast enough to get me arrested (5spd. . . )
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Screw the ITR. . .my last car had 315hp to the wheels and 260hp stock, but I sold my car for the xA (a more sensible car, easy to maintain, not thirsty with gas). I miss the power, but I don't regret my decision one bit.

Ok. . . I'm a bit grumpy. . . I apologize; it's late. BTW, you do have a VERY clean, very discreet Integra. Nice to see some people tastefully mod Honda/Acura's without adding U2 spyplane wings to the back or 50 caliber machine gun barrels for mufflers.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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Uh. . . HELLO! I was being sarcastic you fool! It's called a pun. . . kill. . . dead serious? Sheez louizzzz!!!!!
I knew you weren't serious LOL

Screw the ITR. . .my last car had 315hp to the wheels and 260hp stock
Yes, but I was just looking at cars around the price range of a used xA. I could have said sell the xA and buy a twin-turbo Viper, but that would have been a little rediculous.

BTW, you do have a VERY clean, very discreet Integra
I appreciate that very much - thank you

Nice to see some people tastefully mod Honda/Acura's without adding U2 spyplane wings to the back or 50 caliber machine gun barrels for mufflers.
I completely agree. Those ___-wads ruin it for the rest of us who are in it for the right reasons.

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No problem at all, my friend

To put it in easy wording, I was saying that 180hp would be NICE, but is unlikely. I love my xA, underpowered and all. . . it's fast enough to get me arrested (5spd. . . )
EXACTLY...it's a WONDERFUL daily driver. I love my xA, too. It's great for getting around town and whatnot, but it'll never be fast. That's why I got it...I spend enough money on the Integra, and I wanted something I knew had ZERO potential, so I wouldn't be tempted to spend money on IT too :D

Nice Lexus, btw ;)
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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All is cool. . . I was just offended at even the idea of selling my xA. . . you mentioned that I made the wrong choice. I guess you were being saracastic too?
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:25 AM
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I was just offended at even the idea of selling my xA. . . you mentioned that I made the wrong choice. I guess you were being saracastic too?
Just meant that if you were looking for a fast car you made the wrong choice, that's all. It looks like you made the exact right decision And yeah, I wish sarcasm was a little easier to pick up on over the intarweb.

OH, and btw - I love the look of your xA. I kinda wish I would have gotten the white one, too, but I like my PGP too. Wish they would make a device to change the color of your car with a switch
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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yeah this is all trrue but let us pimp ou cars, soup up our cars. theres nothing wrong in wanting a car or liking a car or buying a car and then totally upping it to the next level. i'm sorry honda's can be fast but i could never rock one. well maybe an s2k but thats about it.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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I think you have me wrong, here. I didn't mean to say that modding a Scion is wrong...I am all for auto customization. I was just trying to say that the creator of this thread had goals that are just way above what is possible - for now, at least. It's not like I haven't done stuff to my xA lol.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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Well. . . I don't know about zero potential, persay. . .
There are a few xA's and xB's that have made it beyond 150hp with the PE300 Supercharger kit. . . although it's not a killer, it is relatively quick because of its weight. Not a scorcher, but still very nice.
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https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...er=asc&start=0

Here's a good thread with tons of info. . . it's not impossible. . . just VERY VERY difficult and expensive.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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where are people finding pics of my car? Those are seriously out dated and some mods were kinda embarrassing. . . I need to take those pics down
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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pe sc is my gobetween the 1nz and the 2zz
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by quadoptix
uh huh....my homeboys got the dyno sheet and im not hte one who said 1200 on stock internals..my boys car is fully built top to bottom
Your boys car may have made 900. Im not doubting that but it didnt make that high of # on pump gas. Its just not possible, unless your one of those guys who buys 100 octane from a specialty fuel place who has it at the pump & tries to pass it off as pump gas. you cant make that power on 91-93 octane gas. 700 is pushing it to the edge on pump. You could get more with water/ methanol injection but thats not true pump gas numbers.
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I still think it can work. That Tc is proof. They took all the internals upgraded it and now they run 30psi and are getting 580+whp when stock it's about 140whp. That's a 440whp gain. And your saying a roughly 250whp gain is unacheavable? It can work. It just costs money. I just can't wait til he finishes his turbo system gets 350whp and the non believers will be blown away. I've seen street legal turbocharged civics with over 450whp and those engines are as economic as ours.
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FYI, The tC and the xA/xB have different engines. One has been building aftermarket support for some time now, and the others have not.
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the xb has aloit opf aftermarket support jut not large fully built applications
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Not to mention aftermarket support that has been around a LONG time in Japan for the Vitz/Yaris/bb/IST and a dozen other models which all use this engine. There actually is considerably more stuff for this engine than for the tC's engine. . . but we never see it on our shores. . . not that there's a ton in the first place for either.
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i wanna see some pix of the complete setup.
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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sd streetrace:
Your boys car may have made 900. Im not doubting that but it didnt make that high of # on pump gas. Its just not possible, unless your one of those guys who buys 100 octane from a specialty fuel place who has it at the pump & tries to pass it off as pump gas. you cant make that power on 91-93 octane gas. 700 is pushing it to the edge on pump. You could get more with water/ methanol injection but thats not true pump gas numbers


weve got a 300zx that pulls 565 on 91 cali crap pump gas, and the _____ only gets 8 mpg if your easy on it.....drive it hard and it gets about 2....see what 6 1000cc injectors will get you

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Originally Posted by tinybigrig
sd streetrace:
Your boys car may have made 900. Im not doubting that but it didnt make that high of # on pump gas. Its just not possible, unless your one of those guys who buys 100 octane from a specialty fuel place who has it at the pump & tries to pass it off as pump gas. you cant make that power on 91-93 octane gas. 700 is pushing it to the edge on pump. You could get more with water/ methanol injection but thats not true pump gas numbers


weve got a 300zx that pulls 565 on 91 cali crap pump gas, and the _____ only gets 8 mpg if your easy on it.....drive it hard and it gets about 2....see what 6 1000cc injectors will get you

:D

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those are believable pump gas numbers. Ive got 1000cc injectors in my supra also. people who claim such ridiculous numbers on pump gas have no clue. You just cant run enough timing or boost to make huge power without running 100 octane or better.



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